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srd posted 08-20-2001 01:17 PM ET (US)   Profile for srd   Send Email to srd  
I have a '76 15 Whaler. I need a replacement stern light and pole (not the brackets). It broke off and sunk - long story. Anyway, a factory replacement pole and light runs $120. Anyone know a cheaper alternative source or suitable substitute?
Dick posted 08-20-2001 06:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
The reason for the high price on the original stern light is that it is a stainless steel pole and only used by Whaler. You can adapt any Perko or Attwood light with an aluminum pole to work.
whalerron posted 08-20-2001 11:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalerron  Send Email to whalerron     
Dick is right. Almost all of the stern light poles are the same diameter and so they will fit in the whaler fittings. If you buy aluminum, you might want to remove it from time-to-time to make sure it doesn't corrode permanently in place.

- ron

Whaler15 posted 08-20-2001 11:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler15  Send Email to Whaler15     
I had a similar problem and looked at the Perko replacements for my 15'. You're right, it is the same diameter but the electrical connection is made to fit in a Perko base which surface mounts on the boat. What's needed is an electrical "pig tail" (wires coming directly out of the bottom) like the original. Couldn't come up with a way for a good electrical connection on the Perko.

Any suggestions?

Whaler15 posted 08-20-2001 11:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler15  Send Email to Whaler15     
I had a similar problem and looked at the Perko replacements for my 15'. You're right, it is the same diameter but the electrical connection is made to fit in a Perko base which surface mounts on the boat. What's needed is an electrical "pig tail" (wires coming directly out of the bottom) like the original. Couldn't come up with a way for a good electrical connection on the Perko.

Any suggestions?

Dick posted 08-21-2001 08:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
I forgot to mention that it is necessary to re wire the light with a pigtail to fit the Whaler set up.
triblet posted 08-21-2001 11:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
And the plug, at least on my later montauk,
is a Perko part that West Marine stocks.

Chuck

Whaler15 posted 08-21-2001 06:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler15  Send Email to Whaler15     
Triblet,

Are you saying that west marine has a plug for the light that plugs in at the base and provides pigtails?

srd posted 08-21-2001 07:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for srd  Send Email to srd     
The Perko lights I have seen at West Marine all come in a kit with a base that the pole fits into. As I see it the base would have to be discarded as because it mounts horizontally and down through the deck, which will not work on a Whaler. Some even have telescoping poles which slide up and down in the base. Perko apparently does not make a pole kit which would vertically mount on a Whaler's transom.

Unless someone has a better suggestion I plan to buy a Perko pole kit with wire pigtales (not the removable one w/ a plug at the bottom of the pole), discard the Perko base and mount the plot in the Whaler brackets that mount verticlaay on the transom.

Dick posted 08-21-2001 08:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
You don't have to buy the Perko light kit, buy just the replacement pole light. The #1400DP series are available from 24" to 48" long and range from $20.00 to $27.00.
ValkariaKid posted 08-22-2001 12:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for ValkariaKid  Send Email to ValkariaKid     
I too bought a Perko light to replace the broken original. It came with the pigtail needed. It took all of 10 minutes to install, and works perfectly.

They're just butt ugly!

-Paul

Whaler15 posted 08-22-2001 05:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler15  Send Email to Whaler15     
The pole lights that I have seen have all had a female electrical connection at the bottom, designed to plug in to a a base mounted on the boat (no pigtails).

What is the model with pigtails? ValkariaKid, how did you make your electrical connection?

where2 posted 08-23-2001 06:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for where2  Send Email to where2     
Get a tubing cutter and remove the end of the tube with the built in connection. Viola, you have wires to splice onto, and if you want to keep the spray off the splices, shove them up the tube.

While you're at it, it doesn't hurt to consider a low glare style light fixture for your replacement pole... Being motivated, I made mine telescope so it can go "up" at night, and down the other 95% of the time I use the boat.

Mattall posted 08-24-2001 05:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mattall  Send Email to Mattall     
I didn't cut the pole when I replaced mine. I just added some crimp connectors with male ends (18G I think) on them to the wire run that plug directly into the holes in the end of the Perko light pole.

No cutting, works great and is easily unplugged.

Bigshot posted 08-27-2001 02:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Make sure you spray that every now and then with corrosion X. I had one weld into the mount after less than a year in salt water. What a mess! I have also sheared them with a ski rope or other line because they are kinda flimsy aluminum. I saw where people have them clipped on the teak door so you just flip down the door and hook it up, no looking for it, etc. I am in the same situation. Have the hardware, just no pole. I hate to go the flimsy route but E-Bay is empty.
Bigshot posted 08-27-2001 02:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Just read the other sternlight post and have my idea. I am gonna make on from SS tubing(cheap) and mount a light to it, should work great and at least the tubing is shiny and sturdy.
lhg posted 08-27-2001 03:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Agree. The stern light poles should definitely be made from SS if the SS brackets are being used. Isn't this what Whaler has been doing for 43 years?
srd posted 08-27-2001 10:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for srd  Send Email to srd     
It appears to me that the stern light brackets on my '76 15 foot are made of brass w/ chrome plate and are not stainless steel. If so, does it really make a difference if the pole is SS?
rwest posted 09-03-2001 11:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for rwest  Send Email to rwest     
I replaced the light on my Nauset with Perko from Boater's World. It was made for a flush mount deck fitting. They had a replacement fitting for the flushmount that consisted of the small 3/4 inch or so black male/female plug. Plug was about $3 or so. All I had to do was cut and add a 3" piece of wire to the male part of the plug and attach it to the wiring block that was on my transome. It plugs right into the Perko pole without any problem. The light needs to be removed from time to time to clean off the corrosion as well as checking the pigtail. I wanted the Stainless pole but the cost was too much.
Ron

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