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whalerron posted 08-30-2001 09:14 AM ET (US)   Profile for whalerron   Send Email to whalerron  
What is the latest on the parts availability for new Johnson outboards. I heard that not too long ago, dealers were having a hard time getting parts to fix the new Johnsons. Do you know anything about this. I will be buying either a Merc 90 or a Johnson 90 and the whole parts availability thing with Johnson scares me. I think the Johnson may be a better motor but I don't want something that I cannot get parts or service for if it has a problem.

thanks,
ron

Dick posted 08-30-2001 09:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
The Johnson dealers I know seem to be getting parts with no problem now. It looks like getting the parts up and running was Bombardiers first priority.
Bigshot posted 08-30-2001 11:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
I would not worry about it. They are readily available and by the time you need anything, it will be there. That 90 is a great engine.
lhg posted 08-30-2001 02:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
The only problem with the 90 Johnson is the remote oil injection tank. Yamaha and Merc 90's have an integral tank, and probably a more reliable oil injection system in the first place. Check into how all of this works out for your specific application before you buy. Those tanks in the smaller Whalers can be a real problem, since these old Boston Whalers were designed before oil injection ever existed!
bigz posted 08-30-2001 03:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for bigz    
Ron, Dick's as usual is correct. I might add frankly wasn't any real problem in the parts area even over the winter. "OMC" never shut down distribution of parts. A little slow during that time frame, but since March/April has pretty much been business as usual. Some headaches on the dealer side setting up new accounts with Bombardier all water under the dam now.

You right on, Johnson 90 is a good solid engine practically bullet proof -- the Yamaha is also a fine choice. Then there is always Merc, as they say do yeah want to go fast get a Merc! if yeah want to get home get a Johnson! --- (LHG ha hah -- haven't used that in a while -- about as lame as your oil tank problem --- chuckle)

Tom W Clark posted 08-30-2001 03:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
ron,

I agree with these guys, parts are not a problem. You'll love the Johnson.

"Then there is always Merc, as they say do yeah want to go fast get a Merc! if yeah want to get home get a Johnson!"

bigz, truer words was never spoke.

lhg, I gotta' take bigz' side on this one. The remote oil tank for the OMC motors fits perfectly into a group 24 battery box and rigs up clean as can be, with the added benefit of not oozing oil all over the boat and motor when you tilt the motor up like the Mercury outboard I used recently does. As an added bonus, Johnson's come in beautiful white not that evil olí stinky black color.

george nagy posted 08-30-2001 04:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for george nagy  Send Email to george nagy     
What year is the johnson? Is it a 90 or 60 degree block? Is it an oceanpro? I like johnson for longevity, the white lasts longer than the evinrude metallic blue. Yamaha's finish doesn't last as long in my opinion. The torque is better on the v-4 than on the straight 3 cyl configuration. Good luck with either.
andygere posted 08-30-2001 05:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Whalernut and I can speak to the longevity and reliability of the Johnson V4s. My '79 still goes like heck when I firewall it, starts on the first click and purrs like a kitten. I'd by another in a heartbeat. I also like the clean white paint scheme!
lhg posted 08-30-2001 06:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Boy - sticking my nose into a Johnson thread is almost as dangerous as treading in the Post-Classic area!

I'm sure the 60 degree Johnson 90 is a good engine. the ones I've seen are nice and sound good. It should be, since the whole concept of a 60 degree vee outboard was copied from Mercury, once the patent expired!
Yamaha's now using them, too. Same for Suzuki.

Seriously, though, I don't think a remote oil tank is the best idea in less than V-6 engines. I have Mercury and Yamaha on my side here, with about 80% of the mid range outboard market cornered. On my 18 Outrage, for example, twin Johnson 70's would result in two batteries, and two oil tanks in the splash well. I like to keep my boat rigging clean and simple, and maximize storage which Whalers are not great on in the frist place. Oil tanks waste valuable space, if you don't have concealed places for them, such as the 18-22 Outrages/Revenges, especially rigged with twins. The console space will work, but is not great, and also uses valuable dry storage space. So I'm not convinced on this, and never will be. It was only meant to be a helpful suggestion to the potential buyer, not a lame idea! If you like small boats (13-17' Whalers) littered with oil tanks under the seats and in consoles, buy a Bombardier!

Mullet posted 08-30-2001 09:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mullet  Send Email to Mullet     
"Do you want to go fast, or do you want to get home!" That's cute. I don't remember Merc going bankrupt, losing races, or having to find new owners. I go fast and get home too! What a novel idea.
whalerron posted 08-31-2001 08:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for whalerron  Send Email to whalerron     
George,

Whichever motor I buy will be a 2002 model. When I was a kid (int 60s), Mercs were the fastest motor but they had terrible problems with reliability. With Johnsons, it seemed like you could never kill them. But, the whole Bombardier buyout thing throws a wrench into the works. This thread is almost becoming a "who makes the best motor" discussion.

I think what I am hearing is that the Merc 90 and the Johnson 90 are about equivalent in power and reliability. I guess this holds true as long as I avoid the Ficht Technology fuel injected Johnson?

How far away from the Johnson can I mount the external oil tank? Can I put it in the console?

thanks,
ron

sorcerer posted 08-31-2001 08:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for sorcerer    
Ron, you can mount the tank in the console.

There is no such motor now as a Ficht Johnson. The Bombardier purchase is probably the best thing to happen to J&E, they have the money, the desire and the abilities to provide us with top notch outboards.

I also remember very well from the late 50's even to the 70's the cantankerous Kiefffer Mercury motors. Fast as you say when they ran, I must say most of the time, but dead lead when they didn't! They would usually picked the worst times to act finicky. Do recall I was always, it seemed, able to get a tow, with what else a J or an E not with out a laugh from its owner.

Good luck shopping and with whatever you purchase.

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