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|Author||Topic: Montauk T-Top|
posted 09-04-2001 09:30 PM ET (US)
Has anybody had any experience, or seen somebody elses 17' boat with a t-top? I was wondering what it would look like on a boat of this size. Thanks.
posted 09-04-2001 09:34 PM ET (US)
It may dwarf the boat. It could also contribute to instability with the extra weight topside. I assume it's a Montauk you're talking about, so standing up even some of the time is not really a good idea. Why not just do a Bimini? It's a lot cheaper, too.
posted 09-05-2001 07:54 AM ET (US)
What do you mean when you say that standing up is not really a good idea? These boats are designed to be driven while standing or sitting. And depending on conditions while in a Montauk, you could end up 2-3 inces shorter after piloting while sitting :)
posted 09-05-2001 10:08 AM ET (US)
Have a T-Top on my 20' Hydra sport and it acts like a sail in a stiff wind. Can't imagine what it would do to a 950lb boat. Do the bimini. #2 reason for bimini is when it gets a tad cold, you can drop or remove it to get some warmth.
posted 09-05-2001 11:48 AM ET (US)
I am assuming a T-Top is a welded aluminum frame that is permanent with some fabric on top.
I got a close look at a Scout 185 over the weekend. It had a T-Top. Very good looking boat. I like the idea of having something to hold on to if the weather gets rough plus the straps don't flap in the breeze like my bimini. However for trailering, the bimini is the way to go.
posted 09-05-2001 12:13 PM ET (US)
I agree with Bigshot, you would never make any headway into a stiff wind. The bimini top store away nicely ahead of the bow rail behind the navagation lights. You hardly know it's there.
posted 09-05-2001 01:29 PM ET (US)
This is an issue that keeps coming up, and has been covered extensively within the last few months. Go back through the older postings and you'll find a lot of information. I looked into a t-top when I bought my 17, and the bottom line is: it won't work. According to Boston Whaler, the 17 outrage won't even handle one, much less a montauk. Too tippy, and in addition there's no way to through bolt one on a montauk. The option that has been available is a lightweight t-top made like a bimini. It's called the Bimi-tee and is made in Tampa, FL. See at http://www.bimi-teetop.com/index.html
I plan to try one, but won't be buying until next spring.
posted 09-05-2001 02:50 PM ET (US)
Regarding the "tippy" issue - I had a 1971 17' Whaler with a homemade T-Top on it (my dad built it)- the "top" of the top was about 7' off the floor. The top frame was made from 3/4" and 1/2" [steel] galvanized conduit pipe, gas welded with acetylene. It was a simple, rigid structure, and the top part was NOT canvas, but thin plywood. Why? Because dad had welded a small ladder on the side. Why? So when I was in the Fla keys I could climp on top and look for fish in the clear waters. (top had a removable railing up there, too so my big butt didn't fall off). I weigh 200 lbs, and the boat was VERY stable while at rest AND while underway at slow speeds (never tried fast speeds)...wife was driving. heh heh NO PROBLEM...was NOT "tippy". As far as sun protection, I suppose a bimini vs this top was a wash. I had both and preferred the T-Top overall - looked cool, worked great, but was a problem getting under some low bridges in the Keys between the Bay and Ocean. As soon as my scanner comes in (this week, hopefully), I'll scan a photo of it with me on top and email it to anyone who's interested.(drop me an email in a few days and remind this old pirate). By the way, go to cetacea (page 18 or 19) and look at my 18.6 Outrage T-Top, also built by my dad from the same materials. Note that there are 2 young adults standing on it...definitely not tippy. Best, Mav
posted 09-12-2001 08:01 PM ET (US)
Boston Whaler advises not to put a T-top on a Montauk. I had a Montauk with a T-top installed by a previous owner. It wouldn't stay bolted to the 1/2" thick deck. It also took up a lot of room. I'd only recommend using a sun top.
posted 09-17-2001 09:04 PM ET (US)
Hi, everyone - Just wanted to let you know I haven't ignored all your [many] emails! I'm STILL waiting on my scanner so I can send all of you a jpeg of that excellent Montauk T-Top. I've saved all your email addresses - pls bear with me and the "air" shipping, I presume...from dell computers.. Best, Mav
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