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george nagy posted 09-06-2001 08:07 PM ET (US)   Profile for george nagy   Send Email to george nagy  
I have a problem wity my twin cable system on my 18' outrage. The problem is stiff steeering. I disconnected the steering arm from the cables. Both the twin teleflex cables and engine move freely, had me baffled for a second then I realized that the stainless steering arm which attaches to the rusty steel steering arm on my evinrude is frozen solid. There is no movement except forced, really forced and then even not much. There seems to be two holes in my engine's steering arm, one being closer to you as you look at the front of the engine. The stainless steering bar is now frozen in the one farthest.

My question is, Which hole should it be in? Does it matter? It would be easier to cut the bolt and use the other hole.

Any ideas here?

lhg posted 09-06-2001 08:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
George, this may not be what you want to hear, but especially since you're getting a new engine, do yourself a huge favor and switch over to Teleflex hydraulic, for about $700. Best money you'll EVER spend.

After 3 years the twin cable on my 18 froze up down there, and always steered hard from day one. I'd get rid of it for good. Best thing I ever did was to switch to Hydraulic.
It'll feel like a new boat.

acseatsri posted 09-06-2001 08:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for acseatsri  Send Email to acseatsri     
I'll second the motion on the hydraulic steering. I just bought one on EBAY. The 2.7 turns lock to lock is just too quick and hard to steer. Going to 4.7 turns.
george nagy posted 09-06-2001 08:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for george nagy  Send Email to george nagy     
LHG, You are correct not what i want to here, but thanks anyway. New hydraulic not in the cards for a while. I didn't really mind the way the boat use to steer with the twin cable especially after I installed the widget liquid lube system. No more hard grease!
acseatsri posted 09-06-2001 08:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for acseatsri  Send Email to acseatsri     
George, you can have mine once I get the hydraulic installed. It still works decent.
acseatsri posted 09-06-2001 09:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for acseatsri  Send Email to acseatsri

George, Here's half of the solution. The list of engines it DOESN'T fit is very short. Not sure what it will ultimately sell for, but new it's over $300.

Tom W Clark posted 09-06-2001 11:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     

Use the hole closest to the motor. That's how I had it rigged on my Outrage 18 with '90 Johnson 150.

I'm going to have to disagree with the crowd here again. I really liked the twin cable steering on my boat. It was a step up from the single cable in that it was much tighter (this assumes it is adjusted properly).

I've driven hydraulic steer boats and I have to agree the effort is low and no feed back but the turn lock to lock drives me nuts. One of things I love about the Outrage 18 is that it handles like a sports car, not a bus. Almost 5 turns is no fun. Anybody can reduce steering effort by "gearing down" the system. It's like a bicycle, you can have less effort but go slow, or choose greater effort and go fast.

George, I encourage you to buy that new motor, tune up the steering you have and use the hole closest to the motor.

george nagy posted 09-06-2001 11:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for george nagy  Send Email to george nagy     
Tom, what size prop are you running?

Tom W Clark posted 09-06-2001 11:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     

...was running. I believe it was an OMC 19" SST II prop. pretty standard fare and it worked well. I tried a 21" at one point but it was just too tall. But that was before I knew you could jack your motor up and stuff....

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