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Makonut posted 10-03-2001 05:58 PM ET (US)
Well..I read the drain tube articles pertaining to larger whalers, was SURE my 13 couldn't have that problem hmmm..washed the anchor locker and noticed I was putting in more then what was draining out..jabbed around with a long screwdriver and realised..there was NO tube and that I was jabbing into a foam or core..man o man..what a feeling I got in the pit of my stomach!! Now how much water over the years went into the hull?? I just don't know,,and quite frankly don't want to. (unless theres a easy way to drill a few holes and then patch.
I guess the reason I put this post in..there are a lot of smaller whalers out there that I'm sure have never checked the bow locker drain tube..DO SO! I learned the hard way
Jer
Dr T posted 10-05-2001 10:19 AM ET (US)
The anchor locker on my 82 drains into the cockpit, and there is a large, perfectly round 6" diameter light brown spot in the middle of the locker. I have always assumed that this is where the foam was injected into the hull.
Makonut, did this spot deteriorate in your boat (perhaps by being left filled with water over a long period of time) and allow the water into the hull?
Samars posted 10-05-2001 01:39 PM ET (US)

Maybe I am not reading the thread correctly, at the bow of my 67, 13 there is what I call the bow hatch, with the mohongany cover, fairly small...I store a small anchor/line, towel, tools and extra line. There are three small holes that drain into the rest of the boat itself. The 6 inch to 8 inch diameter circle is farther forward toward the bow and was in fact the place where the foam was injected...mine is in solid shape. Your comment/question then is that the (3) drain holes that drain into the boat have tubes and we should be checking those ! Is this a correct understanding?
Sinclair7 posted 10-05-2001 04:08 PM ET (US)
Should there be a tube in the bow locker on my '82 13. I always wondered why it drained so slowly. Could the water be going into the hull? If so, this boat is in trouble this winter. Does anyone know what that liquid that smells like vinegar coming out of the old screw holes is called. What causes it?
Thanks,
Sinclair7

Makonut posted 10-05-2001 06:58 PM ET (US)
DrT..The hole is the drain hole leading from the inside of the bow locker (center-aft) to the deck. Samars..I'm not sure about the 67, but the 73 has that drain hole (1) 2 others are aft. All three holes "should" have tubes. The two aft drain holes should be tubed with bronze pipe..flared and 5200. The forward drain is a sort of "lazy S". BW has a plastic tube insert used with O-rings (which I intend to 5200 in)
Sinclair..Thats what made me look...hosing water went in fast and drained slow!! Check it!! (If I save one boat..I'll feel this thread was worth it) let me know Sinclair
Amazing how we all check for screw holes, small cracks, etc and forget to check the obvious
Other ole man of the Sea...and still learning
Jer
Small Fry posted 10-06-2001 08:37 AM ET (US)
Samars,
I have a 62. My drain holes are the same as yours and go into the boat, a real easy set- up.
Sinclair7,
Search this forum for the brown spots, screw holes and vinegar smelling foam. There have been some good discussions and explanations on this topic already that may help.
Makonut,
I hear the foam is a closed cell foam and won't absorb water if the boat is after 78??. I have a 62 that has cracks in the hull and takes on water, but the foam doesn't appear to be water logged after sitting in the water all summer long. That doesn't mean that there is not water in some spots of the the hull though. Some one suggested that I weigh mine and compare the results to the original weight to see if there is water logging.

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Author	Topic: 13' drain tubes! CHECK EM
Makonut	posted 10-03-2001 05:58 PM ET (US) Well..I read the drain tube articles pertaining to larger whalers, was SURE my 13 couldn't have that problem hmmm..washed the anchor locker and noticed I was putting in more then what was draining out..jabbed around with a long screwdriver and realised..there was NO tube and that I was jabbing into a foam or core..man o man..what a feeling I got in the pit of my stomach!! Now how much water over the years went into the hull?? I just don't know,,and quite frankly don't want to. (unless theres a easy way to drill a few holes and then patch. I guess the reason I put this post in..there are a lot of smaller whalers out there that I'm sure have never checked the bow locker drain tube..DO SO! I learned the hard way Jer
Dr T	posted 10-05-2001 10:19 AM ET (US) The anchor locker on my 82 drains into the cockpit, and there is a large, perfectly round 6" diameter light brown spot in the middle of the locker. I have always assumed that this is where the foam was injected into the hull. Makonut, did this spot deteriorate in your boat (perhaps by being left filled with water over a long period of time) and allow the water into the hull?
Samars	posted 10-05-2001 01:39 PM ET (US) Maybe I am not reading the thread correctly, at the bow of my 67, 13 there is what I call the bow hatch, with the mohongany cover, fairly small...I store a small anchor/line, towel, tools and extra line. There are three small holes that drain into the rest of the boat itself. The 6 inch to 8 inch diameter circle is farther forward toward the bow and was in fact the place where the foam was injected...mine is in solid shape. Your comment/question then is that the (3) drain holes that drain into the boat have tubes and we should be checking those ! Is this a correct understanding?
Sinclair7	posted 10-05-2001 04:08 PM ET (US) Should there be a tube in the bow locker on my '82 13. I always wondered why it drained so slowly. Could the water be going into the hull? If so, this boat is in trouble this winter. Does anyone know what that liquid that smells like vinegar coming out of the old screw holes is called. What causes it? Thanks, Sinclair7
Makonut	posted 10-05-2001 06:58 PM ET (US) DrT..The hole is the drain hole leading from the inside of the bow locker (center-aft) to the deck. Samars..I'm not sure about the 67, but the 73 has that drain hole (1) 2 others are aft. All three holes "should" have tubes. The two aft drain holes should be tubed with bronze pipe..flared and 5200. The forward drain is a sort of "lazy S". BW has a plastic tube insert used with O-rings (which I intend to 5200 in) Sinclair..Thats what made me look...hosing water went in fast and drained slow!! Check it!! (If I save one boat..I'll feel this thread was worth it) let me know Sinclair Amazing how we all check for screw holes, small cracks, etc and forget to check the obvious Other ole man of the Sea...and still learning Jer
Small Fry	posted 10-06-2001 08:37 AM ET (US) Samars, I have a 62. My drain holes are the same as yours and go into the boat, a real easy set- up. Sinclair7, Search this forum for the brown spots, screw holes and vinegar smelling foam. There have been some good discussions and explanations on this topic already that may help. Makonut, I hear the foam is a closed cell foam and won't absorb water if the boat is after 78??. I have a 62 that has cracks in the hull and takes on water, but the foam doesn't appear to be water logged after sitting in the water all summer long. That doesn't mean that there is not water in some spots of the the hull though. Some one suggested that I weigh mine and compare the results to the original weight to see if there is water logging.