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DillonBW posted 10-22-2001 10:13 PM ET (US)   Profile for DillonBW   Send Email to DillonBW  
I own a 1980 17' Classic, my problem is the previous owner loved to run it ashore like a landing craft, but the sand and oyster beds have worn away the leading edge of the main hull. It has not put a hole in it ...yet, but I would like to know the best method of repair. Has any body used one of those rubber strips you can buy, the ones that just glue along the edge. I would rather get the repair done before using something like that.
Any ideas?
jameso posted 10-23-2001 10:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for jameso  Send Email to jameso     
Yes we run them ashore,,,I will have the same problem soon. I am going to take a piece of fiberglass tape 2 or 3 inches wide,available at West or US Boat, and put a doubler on the keel probably be 3 feet or so, don't like the idea of the glue on rubber thingy. Think I will leave the doubler au natural in order to inspect it, then when the resin is worn into the cloth apply more resin...just my 2 cents.
Jim Armstrong
Taylor posted 10-23-2001 03:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
Is there a stainless steel solution here?
jameso posted 10-23-2001 04:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for jameso  Send Email to jameso     
Yes, whaler uses a stainless steel "cutwater" on it's commerical and military lines,,I think Clark has done a couple of these and knowing him he fabricated his own.
Jim Armstrong
JFM posted 10-23-2001 04:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
The problem with my 13's were always the keal and chines. I know you can install a keal gaurd, but nothing for the chines. I have repaired mine with west system epoxy and a little gel coat. I think that it's just part of boating if you beach your boat. Regards, Jay
DillonBW posted 10-30-2001 10:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for DillonBW  Send Email to DillonBW     
Thanks for the input guys, now I don't feel such a idiot. I was wondering if my beast was the only one with any kind of scratches or wounds on it!
Whalerdan posted 10-31-2001 02:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for Whalerdan  Send Email to Whalerdan     
When I first got my boat I beached it all the time. But after redoing the gel coat 2 or 3 times I figured out a better way. Get a small cheep second anchor for the stearn, and anchor the front and back of the boat. Keep it in a foot or two of water so the bottom doesn't hit. I still do slightly brush the bottom once and a while, but son't get those deep gouges.
Taylor posted 10-31-2001 01:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
Anyone used a keel guard product like one of these?

http://www.tech5kg.com/
http://www.keelguard.com/

These look to be some kind of plastic/rubber strip that goes on with a special 3M adhesive.

DillonBW posted 11-01-2001 08:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for DillonBW  Send Email to DillonBW     
I anchor the way WhalerDan says. I would be interested, like others, about this 3M rubber strip. Been looking around the yards here and have yet to find ANY boat with one.
JBCornwell posted 11-01-2001 09:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
Had that problem with my Sakonnet. Did the strips of glass (5 or 6 at a time) on the keel, smoothed them out with a sander and monitored. Didn't have the KeelGuard product available then, but plan to put one on my Montauk.

Red sky at night. . .
JB :)

maverick posted 11-02-2001 05:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for maverick  Send Email to maverick     
I installed a Megaware keelguard on my 85 18.6 Outrage about 4 yrs ago. It sticks/glues on, and took about 45 minutes to install. Cost was about $140 for a 7' long gray in color piece. Has performed extremely well and served purpose well as I frequently beach the olde girl. There are scars on the keelguard, none on the whaler. About 1 year after the installation, the very front edge began to let loose a bit, so i called Megaware. The immediately sent me a free spare glue to retouch it. That fixed it for about another year, then same thing on very front edge just ABOVE at rest waterline. I drilled (yep, drilled) 2 very small screw holes, used 100% silicone as sealer, and screwed 2 stainless screws into it. No more problems. I suspect that originally I didn't have that front edge of hull clean, perhaps, hence glue didn't adhere good there...OR perhaps the water pressure there.. that is where the "lapstrake" edge/water deflector is at and hard to get good fit there like rest of keel. Anyway, it continues to do well for me, overall I'm very pleased. Application is simply to clean keel 1st, then use their supplied cleaner/preparer stuff. If I had to do it over again, I'd get black instead of gray, and would anchor about 1/2" lower and not have any drilling as i think it would've glued properly. Just a thought. This Megaware is on the web at www.megaware, i think. Also believe that west Marine sells them. Best, Mav
andygere posted 11-02-2001 02:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Here's an anchoring trick that may help, depending on where you typically beach. Get a second anchor and splice in 15-20 feet of 3/4" bungee after your rode. Before hitting the beach, set this anchor off the stern, and slowly motor the boat to shore. After you unload and discharge passengers, let the bungee pull the boat into deeper water (you only need about 2 feet), then set the bow anchor on the beach to hold the boat where you want it. When it's time to go, just haul the boat in on your bow anchor, which will stretch the bungee, and you can load up without getting your feet wet. If the tide is rising or falling, it's easy to reposition the boat from shore.
DillonBW posted 11-06-2001 07:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for DillonBW  Send Email to DillonBW     
Thanks for all the input guys, I think I must epxy the deep cuts first, then use one of the earlier mentioned products.

Happy Whale'in.

Gonefishing posted 11-19-2001 09:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for Gonefishing  Send Email to Gonefishing     
has anyone ever used a product called Tech 5
Keel Guard >??? I would also like to apply something to the center keel of my 200 17 Montauk..thanks
JC posted 11-19-2001 07:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for JC  Send Email to JC     
I have seen a 13' whaler, local rescue boat that was donated. They decided to spray the inside with a Rhino line type product because of the wear and tear,plus it was inexpensive. They also sprayed the keel and chines. Comes in many colors however white will yellow. Also important to find an applicator that has done boats before. Just a thought. JC

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