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Angryeel posted 10-29-2001 08:17 PM ET (US)
Hello all. I have posted here on a couple of other occasions and have had great results with the advice I was given. Wish I had known about the site when I started my project '64 17' resto, I would have done a lot differenly. Anyway, I have finished almost everything, but there is one thing keeping me out of the water; I can not figure out how to hook up my controls the right way.
First off, the motor is a 91 merc 90, the remote is the origanal Morse unit. I am trying to keep the unit in order to save some $ as well as keep at least a couple of things in the boat stock. It has a new console, seat, paint, etc. Anyway, when I went to hook up the throtle and shifter cables, I ran into a few problems. First, I needed to track down the appropraite cable ends, not and easy task, but done. Now when I go to hook them up I have a more serious problem. When I have the shifter cable opperating correctly the throtle is wide open o) I can see no obvious way to get the movement to syncronize; I know that I need the post that the throtle cables fits over to be at the bottom of its cycle when the shifter is in nuetral, but its natural inclination appears to be wide open! What I am missing? is it just plain impossible to get this to work? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for any help
Angryeel
PS, I could not figure out how to perform a search to see if this had been discussed before, but I could not figure that out either.

Dick posted 10-29-2001 09:12 PM ET (US)
What brand of adapters did you use to convert the cables to fit the Merc?
jeffjatich posted 10-29-2001 09:52 PM ET (US)
Do you know if the control is an MT-2? Is it a top mount, chrome plated, single lever, dual function control? If so this control can be configured so that it will work in many engine applications. (ie. your control set up might put a different brand of engine in the idle position). The control can be set up for push to open or pull to open on the shift and throttle. it sounds like you need to change yours.
I have the instruction sheets and can fax/email them to you to show you how to swap the internal configuration. send me an email.
Angryeel posted 10-29-2001 10:26 PM ET (US)
Jeff, it is a model 2, single handle, dual function, chrome handle affair. If you could e-mail me the instructions for the reversal of the mechanism that would be great. g_viani@hotmail.com . I knew there had to be something I was overlooking and it is in fact the push/pull scenario you describe. Thanks so much for the help, I may get this boat wet one of these days.
Angryeel
jimh posted 10-31-2001 12:29 AM ET (US)
Love those Morse controls. Those things are so cool, they practically scream "CLASSIC WHALER".
I think, honestly, that the Morse "big-boat" control was one of the things that really set the early Whalers apart from the rest of the fleet. It was like skippering a 40-footer, having that big chrome control.
You have to preserve them; they're essential to a classic Whaler.
Whalerdan posted 10-31-2001 01:51 AM ET (US)
If Morse is the design I'm thinking of (long, doglegged chrome shaft with a round chrome knob at the end) they do look cool. But they are kind of a pain to use because there is no trim button on the end. You have to mount a trim switch on the console somewhere and you're constantly hunting for it while under power.

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Author	Topic: morse control trouble
Angryeel	posted 10-29-2001 08:17 PM ET (US) Hello all. I have posted here on a couple of other occasions and have had great results with the advice I was given. Wish I had known about the site when I started my project '64 17' resto, I would have done a lot differenly. Anyway, I have finished almost everything, but there is one thing keeping me out of the water; I can not figure out how to hook up my controls the right way. First off, the motor is a 91 merc 90, the remote is the origanal Morse unit. I am trying to keep the unit in order to save some $ as well as keep at least a couple of things in the boat stock. It has a new console, seat, paint, etc. Anyway, when I went to hook up the throtle and shifter cables, I ran into a few problems. First, I needed to track down the appropraite cable ends, not and easy task, but done. Now when I go to hook them up I have a more serious problem. When I have the shifter cable opperating correctly the throtle is wide open o) I can see no obvious way to get the movement to syncronize; I know that I need the post that the throtle cables fits over to be at the bottom of its cycle when the shifter is in nuetral, but its natural inclination appears to be wide open! What I am missing? is it just plain impossible to get this to work? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for any help Angryeel PS, I could not figure out how to perform a search to see if this had been discussed before, but I could not figure that out either.
Dick	posted 10-29-2001 09:12 PM ET (US) What brand of adapters did you use to convert the cables to fit the Merc?
jeffjatich	posted 10-29-2001 09:52 PM ET (US) Do you know if the control is an MT-2? Is it a top mount, chrome plated, single lever, dual function control? If so this control can be configured so that it will work in many engine applications. (ie. your control set up might put a different brand of engine in the idle position). The control can be set up for push to open or pull to open on the shift and throttle. it sounds like you need to change yours. I have the instruction sheets and can fax/email them to you to show you how to swap the internal configuration. send me an email.
Angryeel	posted 10-29-2001 10:26 PM ET (US) Jeff, it is a model 2, single handle, dual function, chrome handle affair. If you could e-mail me the instructions for the reversal of the mechanism that would be great. g_viani@hotmail.com . I knew there had to be something I was overlooking and it is in fact the push/pull scenario you describe. Thanks so much for the help, I may get this boat wet one of these days. Angryeel
jimh	posted 10-31-2001 12:29 AM ET (US) Love those Morse controls. Those things are so cool, they practically scream "CLASSIC WHALER". I think, honestly, that the Morse "big-boat" control was one of the things that really set the early Whalers apart from the rest of the fleet. It was like skippering a 40-footer, having that big chrome control. You have to preserve them; they're essential to a classic Whaler.
Whalerdan	posted 10-31-2001 01:51 AM ET (US) If Morse is the design I'm thinking of (long, doglegged chrome shaft with a round chrome knob at the end) they do look cool. But they are kind of a pain to use because there is no trim button on the end. You have to mount a trim switch on the console somewhere and you're constantly hunting for it while under power.