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Center Console for 15
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posted 10-31-2001 12:46 PM ET (US)
Is it possible to buy a center console for the 15 sport? If so does anyone know where?
Or is this considered "just not done"? I use this boat for chasing club races and my spinal cord is 1" shorter. Thanks
posted 10-31-2001 01:27 PM ET (US)
See Cetacea page 28 for my custom CC 15. The console is a standup model and narrow with front seat platform.. similar to a Carolina Skiff console... check Skiff dealer as they sell all the piece parts! You will love a 15 with a stand-up center console! Happy Whalin'... Clark.. Spruce Creek Navy
posted 11-09-2001 04:38 PM ET (US)
Clark, I have been admiring the center console on your 15 and I too am considering a retrofit like yours as a solution to my aching back.
My only concern is the reduction in passenger seating. Is your 15 essentially a 2-person boat? Do you think a wider CC would work on a 15?
I would be interested in a little more detail on your CC, how the steering is routed and some general dimensions. Is there room for a fuel tank inside?
Thanks in advance for your help!
posted 11-11-2001 09:36 AM ET (US)
John, my 15 is set up as a two/three passenger (two on helm seat and one on console seat) mainly due to having only 40hp!
I like the light, fast, 40 Merc as it serves me well and idles like a kitten but others may need/want more power and then passenger load can go up accordingly to max recommended 5. A wider console will restrict movement to the side and I would recommend the narrow console.. yes, there is room for a gas tank under console (I have an eight gallon tank under helm seat plus a 3 gal spare and console is for stowage)... I fashioned a tunnel under deck for routing of cables etc, and it was a real job... if I made another CC 15 I would find a 15 CC hull with the tunnel molded in and go from there! whatever you do console wise, I would recomment a handy/sturdy grab rail atop so you can really ride it!! Go for it! Clark... The Old Man and the Sea
posted 11-11-2001 07:55 PM ET (US)
I have a 64 17' that I just put a new console in. I wanted something that was pretty narrow, to leave room to walk around. I bought a Todd polyethelene, (or some other blow molded plastic), console for @$300.00 with a windhsield and grabrail. I made some modifications that were pretty easy and it works very well, I think it would work equaly well in a 15', due to the narrow width. I believe that the console is 26" wide; as that does not span the distance between the stringers on the 17', and I wanted the console to be a little taller than it was, I added a platform that is the width of the stringers and about 5" tall. The base is just 2x4s with a piece of 5/4 ply that I fiberglassed, filled, and painted white. The 2x4s are broad side down and two deep, hence the filling before and after glassing. I lag bolted these to the stringers and then mounted the console on the platform. The extra space on the sides of the console, but on top of the platform, makes a nice little shelf under the fishing rods and keep them from being kicked accidently. So far it seems to be pretty rugged and the platform keeps the batteries out of any water that may come in the boat. There are two batteries in the console and room for a couple of gallons of oil, and maybe a sandwich. If storage is a concern, this is probably not a great option, but it does work well for me. If you have less time than $, make the platform out of starboard. It would be easier, better, longer lasting and it would look better. Of course for the price of the starboard, you may be able to find a console that does what you need without modification. The hardest thing about modifying the interior of a small whaler is the need to screw into wood, of which there is not a lot. Hope some of this helps, wish I had the technology to post a pic, it would save a lot of writing and probably be a lot more clear.
Good luck with the project.
posted 12-02-2001 01:38 AM ET (US)
I am reconditioning as opposed to restoring a Whale that came out as a bare hull and I was wondering where you can get the Todd console you mentioned. The console that was on it left little room on the sides.
posted 12-03-2001 08:01 AM ET (US)
didn't bw make a 15' with a center console?...was it just a sit down deal?....lm
posted 12-03-2001 09:44 AM ET (US)
The "factory" 15 Center Console was a sit-down affair! The console was a chopped Montauk console (about 18" cut off the bottom) and was thus quite wide for the 15 application. The 15 CC did, however , have a cable trough molded in with a nice removeable cover... seating was a single thwart seat (mahagony) with the low back piece and railing... Clark.. Spruce Creek Navy
posted 12-03-2001 10:59 AM ET (US)
i had a 15 CC and loved it though it could have been about 6 inches higher(console). You could drive standing up but you had to crouch a bit. My sugestion is a center console low enough to use the rear seat but just high enough to stand up and use too. Then porget the molded in front seat and keep the front twart in front of the console. Cooler seats block view of driver
posted 12-03-2001 02:43 PM ET (US)
JimH has a picture of a factory 15 CC in the reference section.
posted 12-03-2001 05:00 PM ET (US)
I've been scouting out parts/ideas for converting my Sport 15 to a Center Console.
Here is what I've found so far:
Carolina skiff has a medium console with built-in front seat for $280 plus another $220 for windshield and grab rails. The slick finish is available in bone or white. I don't have the dimensions with me, but they look about right. (The dealer says he sells a lot of these to Whaler owners). The console can easily accommodate a 12 gal fuel tank. I'm going to try to rig something up so that I can use my existing controls mounted to the side of the console. They also sell a fiberglass channel for running the wires/cables - $5/foot.
I'm currently trying to figure out what to do about a helm seat. I want to be able to stow the battery as well as safety equipment in the seat, but don't want to shell out the $400-$600 that similar seats are selling for in various catalogs.
Carolina Skiff sells an inexpensive storage seat, but it's a little too wide for my liking...I want to be able to walk around it.
Any input/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
posted 12-03-2001 07:49 PM ET (US)
I find this thread interesting because I have a 15-Sport---I really like the boat--but we are always fidling with the seats, trying to find something more comfortable than a simple thwart.
The 15-foot hull is a very nice hull. It rides better than the 13 and perhaps better than the 16/17 hull, but the seating on most models made by Whaler was a bit too low for comfortable use by adults for long periods of time.
A set up like Clark's customized boat turns the 15 into a real comfortable ride. Too bad Whaler doesn't bring this boat back with some more ergonomic seating.
Or maybe they have...the Dauntless-16?
posted 12-03-2001 08:28 PM ET (US)
I heard a rumor that many are pushing the factory to come up with a new 15 Sport, something along the lines of the new 13 Sport. I think it would be a good idea.
I have also heard that the 11' Classic tender is in demand, but no longer made, not even in CPD. There is interest in getting this back in the line, but the problem is competition with that ridiculous "120" Tender they just introduced, A.K.A. as the "Ivory Soap Bar" or "Floating Golf Cart".
posted 12-03-2001 10:12 PM ET (US)
That's an easy resale for someone who drives a boat like Mr Magoo:)
posted 12-04-2001 05:10 PM ET (US)
Just a thought...
I think I'll build a mock-up of a seat and console out of 1" rigid insulation just to get an idea how the layout might look in the finished project. If it doesn't free-up the space I'm anticipating, I can always just reinstall the woodwork.
posted 12-04-2001 10:03 PM ET (US)
I am in the planning stages of vertically mounting a 15' steering wheel to a small (c. cubic foot) mahogany box that will be screwed into the existing board that lies just behind the back of the front seat on my 1972 13-Sourpuss. (see photo of this model on http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage01.html). The top of the steering wheel will be just high enough that I can hold it while standing, but it will be low enough that I can still drive the boat while sitting on a raised back bench.
While this is not a center console, it will allow me to drive while standing, the boat will still seat six, and I can put a 12-gallon, low-profile Tempo fuel tank under the forward seat. I believe that BigShot was suggesting something similar to this.
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