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JohnNorthEast posted 11-05-2001 09:33 PM ET (US)   Profile for JohnNorthEast   Send Email to JohnNorthEast  

I am interest in learning if any one has put a "cabin" on an outrage or if there is a canvas top which would allow one to sleep overnight in any of the less than 20 foot whalers?


( very new to this )
Ed Stone posted 11-05-2001 10:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ed Stone  Send Email to Ed Stone     
Hey northeastjohn,
Go to the top of the page and look in
cetacea. You will see outrages 18 and
up with forward shelters made for sleeping
or foul weather.
Ed Stone
JBCornwell posted 11-05-2001 10:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
Years ago, John, I spent many a night beneath the Mills forward shelter on my OR18, plus the weather curtain set. Maybe not perfectly weather proof, but certainly proof of the waether at the time. I highly recommenmd it for high adventure.

Red sky at night. . .
JB :)

JohnNorthEast posted 11-05-2001 10:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for JohnNorthEast  Send Email to JohnNorthEast     
Thanks for your reponses. Has anyone ever built a more fixed cabin/cuddy on the outrage (20ft or less)?


jimh posted 11-06-2001 12:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Boston Whaler built many cabin model boats on the same hull as the Outrage. They called these boats the Revenge or Outrage Cuddy.

As for home-made additions, I think one could postulate:

"Any boater with enough intelligence and money to buy a Boston Whaler Outrage would also have enough intelligence to not destroy the boat by hacking up some ugly cabin on it and have enough money to just buy a Revenge or Cuddy model."

This is just a postulate, and may need empirical research to prove its validity, but I think it rests on some strong principals.

The strongest principal underlying my postulate is that people who own Whalers appreciate the esthetics of boat design.

Another principal is that people who own Whalers appreciate well-built and seaworthy boats.

From what I have seen of home-made additions to Whalers, I find that it is difficult for people to produce something as simple as a bench seat for a Whaler that does not look generally awful and out of place on the boat. These seats may be comfortable, but they tend to lack any graceful line or pleasing form.

If the addition of a simple seat causes so much of a problem with the boat's appearance, I can old shudder to think what someone's home-made cabin top would look like.


jimh posted 11-06-2001 01:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Regarding the canvas shelter for Outrages:

The forward area of an Outrage, from the bow to the console, can be protected by a Wm. J. Mills & Co. Forward Shelter.

This is but one piece of a complete system of canvas for enclosing the boat, turning the open cockpit of the Outrage into a completely enclosed boat. There are several photographs of boats in various stages of enclosure with canvas in the CETACEA section of the website.

[Aside: In as much as you mention you are "new to this" --by that I assume you mean Whalers--I would suggest you browse the 300 or so photographs of Whalers in the CETACEA section. This will aquaint you with the many models available and show you the canvas on many of the boats. It is a good way to get familiar with the boats of the Whaler line.]

The Boston Whaler boats were rather unique in that they offered this highly engineered canvas accessory system for their boats. And like the quality expected of a Whaler accessory, the Wm. J. Mills & Co. products are very well made. They were for many years the maker of OEM canvas for Whaler, and it was only in the recent decade with the takeover by Brunswick that Whaler turned to sourcing their canvas from SeaRay's canvas factory, in the process dropping most of the more interesting canvas items from their offering.

andygere posted 11-06-2001 01:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
I agree with you that most home made cabins on any boat look awful. That said, it is possible to build a good looking, functional cabin on an outrage, especially using bent plywood/stitch and glue technique. This has the advantage of being strong, light and can have pleasing complex curves. A yacht quality, varnished cabin of the right proportions could look very spiffy on top of a classic Whaler hull. Perhaps this thought is the result of my love for both Whalers and wooden could be the best of both worlds. I'm sure there is a traditional boatbuilder out there somewhere willing to take on the task.

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