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Mattall posted 11-18-2001 07:55 PM ET (US)
I am working on refinishing the wood interior components on my lovely 13 footer.
The question is regarding the gaskets that runs in channels at both ends of the cover. It is pretty old, painted over and decaying on my boat and I can't really tell what the material is. Can anyone shed any light on the gasket material, where to get it and any installation hints. It doesn't look too tricky but I want to get it right...
Matt
Tom W Clark posted 11-18-2001 09:15 PM ET (US)
There were no "gaskets" when your boat was new. Somebody thought it would be a good idea and added it. If you want to get it right then eliminate it.
JBCornwell posted 11-18-2001 09:15 PM ET (US)
Howdy, Mattall. I had a similar problem a few years ago when I was redoing a 13. My cover was beyond help, so I made a new one of solid mahogany and gasketed it with some small rubber rubrail insert. It worked reasonably well.
Good luck.
Red sky at night. . .
JB :)
Mattall posted 11-19-2001 03:55 PM ET (US)
Tom,
I have to disagree with you on this one. My Dad's '63 Eastport had the exact same construction on the forward cover. Maybe gasket is the wrong term...
Matt
lonestarpa posted 11-19-2001 07:27 PM ET (US)
I encountered small rubber "wheels" that were mortised near each corner of the bow conpartment cover on my '69 13. They were about 3/8 thick and between 3/4 and 1" in diameter, and seemed to be made of natural rubber. I'm sure when new they provided a good squeeze fit. This would help eleminate trying to dodge the hatch on it's flight toward the stern.
Mullet posted 11-19-2001 08:13 PM ET (US)
Mattall, I have same problem on 1968. There is a groove up both sides of the hatch with something in it. Mine is so old and falling apart that I can't tell what it is. Looks almost like a material similiat to fire hose. Rubber and some type of weaving.
Tom W Clark posted 11-19-2001 10:14 PM ET (US)
Well I'll be darned. The 13's I grew up in didn't have such an item including the 1976 13-Sport I owned. Am I to take it it is not any sort of a weather or waterproofing device so much as a friction fitting device to secure the locker cover? If I am to understand correctly, there is a kerf or dado in the edge of the sides of the hatch, i.e. the short ends, into which an insert is pressed, and this does not continue along the front and back? The material is not something that sits under the locker cover?
JBCornwell posted 11-19-2001 11:30 PM ET (US)
Yes, Tom, you describe it well. I agree that the purpose was a friction fit to keep the cover in place. You might have known a 13 between the era of the little friction wheels, (similar to the ones on the bottom edge of the side boards to hold the thwart seats in place without rattling into sawdust) and the rubrail style fitting.
The 13 I refer to above was a '75 Sport.
Red sky at night. . .
JB :)
Mattall posted 11-20-2001 12:41 PM ET (US)
Tom's description is spot on. A dato on the short ends with this material that provides a friction fit. The material does not sit under the cover.
Mullet's description of the material, rubber with some kind of weaving, is also accurate. I also figured this to be original by the 3 small brass brads nailed from the bottom side of the cover through the material in the dato. Precisely placed and clear Whaler quality!
Looks like I've posed a stumper...

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Author	Topic: 1965 13' Sport forward locker
Mattall	posted 11-18-2001 07:55 PM ET (US) I am working on refinishing the wood interior components on my lovely 13 footer. The question is regarding the gaskets that runs in channels at both ends of the cover. It is pretty old, painted over and decaying on my boat and I can't really tell what the material is. Can anyone shed any light on the gasket material, where to get it and any installation hints. It doesn't look too tricky but I want to get it right... Matt
Tom W Clark	posted 11-18-2001 09:15 PM ET (US) There were no "gaskets" when your boat was new. Somebody thought it would be a good idea and added it. If you want to get it right then eliminate it.
JBCornwell	posted 11-18-2001 09:15 PM ET (US) Howdy, Mattall. I had a similar problem a few years ago when I was redoing a 13. My cover was beyond help, so I made a new one of solid mahogany and gasketed it with some small rubber rubrail insert. It worked reasonably well. Good luck. Red sky at night. . . JB :)
Mattall	posted 11-19-2001 03:55 PM ET (US) Tom, I have to disagree with you on this one. My Dad's '63 Eastport had the exact same construction on the forward cover. Maybe gasket is the wrong term... Matt
lonestarpa	posted 11-19-2001 07:27 PM ET (US) I encountered small rubber "wheels" that were mortised near each corner of the bow conpartment cover on my '69 13. They were about 3/8 thick and between 3/4 and 1" in diameter, and seemed to be made of natural rubber. I'm sure when new they provided a good squeeze fit. This would help eleminate trying to dodge the hatch on it's flight toward the stern.
Mullet	posted 11-19-2001 08:13 PM ET (US) Mattall, I have same problem on 1968. There is a groove up both sides of the hatch with something in it. Mine is so old and falling apart that I can't tell what it is. Looks almost like a material similiat to fire hose. Rubber and some type of weaving.
Tom W Clark	posted 11-19-2001 10:14 PM ET (US) Well I'll be darned. The 13's I grew up in didn't have such an item including the 1976 13-Sport I owned. Am I to take it it is not any sort of a weather or waterproofing device so much as a friction fitting device to secure the locker cover? If I am to understand correctly, there is a kerf or dado in the edge of the sides of the hatch, i.e. the short ends, into which an insert is pressed, and this does not continue along the front and back? The material is not something that sits under the locker cover?
JBCornwell	posted 11-19-2001 11:30 PM ET (US) Yes, Tom, you describe it well. I agree that the purpose was a friction fit to keep the cover in place. You might have known a 13 between the era of the little friction wheels, (similar to the ones on the bottom edge of the side boards to hold the thwart seats in place without rattling into sawdust) and the rubrail style fitting. The 13 I refer to above was a '75 Sport. Red sky at night. . . JB :)
Mattall	posted 11-20-2001 12:41 PM ET (US) Tom's description is spot on. A dato on the short ends with this material that provides a friction fit. The material does not sit under the cover. Mullet's description of the material, rubber with some kind of weaving, is also accurate. I also figured this to be original by the 3 small brass brads nailed from the bottom side of the cover through the material in the dato. Precisely placed and clear Whaler quality! Looks like I've posed a stumper...