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posted 11-21-2001 09:38 AM ET (US)
I have my 78 Revenge out of the water and in my garage and want to clean up the hull. I've been told a product called ZAP Restorer will bring the fiberglass back amazingly. Anyone had any experience with this product?
posted 11-21-2001 09:53 AM ET (US)
Nothing works like elbow grease. Try a 3m rubbing compound if heavily chalked. If moderate a Dupont or equiv polishing compound is good. If REALLY bad 1000 grit wetsand will do the trick. Nothing will remove oxidation other than an abrassive material. Once smooth, choose your polish and wax. Use a buffer if you want fast professional results.
posted 11-21-2001 10:17 AM ET (US)
Ohh, Bigshot! I beg to differ, sir!
I went looking for "On and Off" to work on barnacle residue on the OR-18. Here in West Texas all I found was blank stares. . . and ZAP!
HAZMAT, to be sure, but it works. It not only took off calcium residue, it also took off oxidation and left a new looking bright surface. Ready for wax.
Read the instructions carefully, and use rubber gloves. Don't get it on forbidden materials. It is a brew of mild acids, so treat it as HAZARDOUS MATERIAL.
Red sky at night. . .
posted 11-21-2001 10:46 AM ET (US)
As seen on TV! ZAP --
Best stuff to come along since Rubinskiwitz came up with chicken soup.
ZAP! Restorer is the product used by professional contractors for years to restore tile, countertops, floors, walls, showers and tubs. ZAP! is a restorer that will bring back the original luster to dull tile, restore grout to its true color, polish scum, rust stained porcelain and shine filthy fiberglass. Unlike regular cleaners that only remove the superficial dirt, ZAP! penetrates the surface and restores four specific areas: Porcelain, Fiberglass, Tile and Grout. ZAP! performs WITHOUT dangerous bleach, ammonia, or abrasive chemicals. ZAP! can remove rust and iron stains, calcium deposits, hard water stains, lime scale, soap scum, mold & mildew and ground in dirt. ZAP! also has a light minty fresh fragrance. ZAP! has saved thousands of people thousands of dollars in remodeling costs. Why replace it, when you can quickly and easily restore it with ZAP!
posted 11-21-2001 11:44 AM ET (US)
OK you jokers.....where do I get this stuff? I used to own a detail company in High school and college and tried every miracle cure there was and there was'nt any. I am a irm believer in Oxi-Clean though so I'll try anything once. Where do I get it?
PS On/Off is the woo but even more highly toxic. Amazing how it cleans brass. My Norman pins look brand new in 1 minute.
posted 11-21-2001 11:51 AM ET (US)
Wal-Mart has it I'm told --- then again I'm told Wal-Mart has everything -- even going off DIY heart transplant kits next year ;-)
posted 11-21-2001 01:23 PM ET (US)
BigZ - you are a stitch, sir...
Arriba, I can't tell for sure what degree or type of clean up you are going after, though it sounds more like restoring the finish than removing barnacles and crud.
There is *nothing* I've encountered that does a better job of removing scum, algae, barnacles or whatever that may be inhabiting the area on your hull between the finish and the atmosphere than "On & Off" by Marykate Industries, if you can find it. Warnings about it's use have been noted elsewhere in this thread. Zap might do similar things, but I've never used it.
But if what you're trying to do is simply restore a chalky or faded finish, I agree with BS, at least in principle. The general rule of thumb is to use the least agressive (least abrasive) material that will do the job, possibly determining what that is by trying out small test areas. Meguiar's (automotive finish maintenance products) has a line of marine color restorer (light rubbing compound), polishes and waxes that I highly recommend. They are easy to use, relatively easy to find, and can take an old powdery gelcoat and turn it into a finish that is as good as new.
If it is restoring a finish that you're after, and you haven't done it before, I'd strongly recommend that you start out with nothing any more aggressive than color restorer, by whatever manufacturer, until and unless you find that even with two applications, it's not doing the job.
posted 11-21-2001 02:45 PM ET (US)
Kingfish mentions "'On & Off' by Marykate Industries, if you can find it." I agree about Marykate -- they've got some great products. Go to http://www.marikate.com/ and click on the button for Outlets. There, you can get a list of Retail and Wholesale outlets, and can even order online.
Happy Thanksgiving, everyone! -- LKS
posted 11-21-2001 02:57 PM ET (US)
I can get it anywhere in Nj and FL. About $9 a qt. Has top be a marine store, doubt Wally world would have it. Boat US, West marine etc will. Watch your galv trailer, turn it white in a flash.
posted 11-21-2001 03:52 PM ET (US)
Oh yes yes MK's On/Off -- tremendous product purchase any where fine marine products are sold.
Beautiful! Ah, as you scrub down the topsides in your slip (depends on the tide) them little minnow critters hiding along the waterline from them big critters just sort of shrivel up heading for that Great Sardine Factory in the Sky --- as the residue drips off the hull --- a sight to behold ----
Now JB with his recommendation for ZAP --- got me kinda worked up, so sped off to the local Wal-Mart --- found the stuff --- rushed home --- well I did pick up a new red flag for the mail box which the trick/treat crowd had found I'm sure amusing to club it clean off --- now this did give me a pause ---- why you ask! --- well if I had gone out intentionally to find a mail box flag two bits to a dollar would have racked up lots of miles with no luck --- and there it was staring me in the face at Walla-Mart when all I went to get was ZAP --- must be truly a sign!
Long story longer --- the stuff actually works with little or no elbow grease --- amazing absolutely amazing --- going to give bottles out as Christmas presents I think ---- ;) TJZ
posted 11-23-2001 11:19 AM ET (US)
Hi Ho, Hi ho, off to wally world I go. To get some Zap and shine that piece of crap, hi ho, hi ho.....
posted 11-28-2001 08:46 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the input. I tried the Zap on my Revenge and it cleaned up the fiberglass like you wouldn't believe. The problem is that now I have to do the whole boat or it will be a 2 tone. It is a 78 boat and I'm surprised at the change in the color after using ZAP.
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