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BurntWhaler posted 12-05-2001 02:20 PM ET (US)   Profile for BurntWhaler   Send Email to BurntWhaler  
I have a 1979 19'10'' outrage that I'm redoing it caught fire, any one has experience with a burnt whaler?
dfmcintyre posted 12-05-2001 05:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for dfmcintyre  Send Email to dfmcintyre     
Well, how much of it was burned, and to what extent?

BurntWhaler posted 12-06-2001 12:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for BurntWhaler  Send Email to BurntWhaler     
Were to start.

Top side Fwd some spots on the wall thru the glass to the foam, then going down to the gunnels on both sides, spotted as well thru the glass to the foam, all the way to the transom, the transom is strong no soft spots, solid! Fwd to Aft new down the center was not burnt at all, hull Fwd 1/4 left, gel gone! Down to the mat.
One more thing topside Fwd foam cracked straight-line Fwd to Aft till the end of Fwd deck.

BurntWhaler posted 12-07-2001 12:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for BurntWhaler  Send Email to BurntWhaler     
You know Iím looking at all these posts and the questions are. Were should I put my speakers and what type of bottom paint, that I should use, marine plywood or starboard. I don't know I canít wait to have those types of repairs.
dfmcintyre posted 12-08-2001 08:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for dfmcintyre  Send Email to dfmcintyre     
I think it's going to be a major project. Burned gelcoat is one thing, but when the glass is gone down to and including some of the foam, it would be best to get some professional advise from a local shop.

Do you have any experience in fiberglass work?

Best - Don

BurntWhaler posted 12-08-2001 10:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for BurntWhaler  Send Email to BurntWhaler     
Thanks don.

Yes and no, Iím very handy and read anything and everything I can find about glass repair and Iím always asking a lot of question to more experienced people, slowly but surely Iíll get there I will post some pics as son as I find my Sony CD starter.
It looks alot better then it did! I sanded all of the bad and burned material and got a greenish fiberglass some areas it's down to the foam, I grounded the cracked foam from the fwd port side all the way to the step down off the fwd port side deck, I know it must sound ugly, but it is!

I refilled the hole with the bad cracked foam and put in new foam, it looks good and strong.

But I got to a point that Iím stuck!

I need some pics to see how the fwd deck is supposed to be. I have no idea? If there's a step all around or if it has just a corner step on each side or it doesnít matter! or Just make it flush with the sides. I don't know Iím confused need some input.

Thanks

MGD

BurntWhaler posted 12-10-2001 11:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for BurntWhaler  Send Email to BurntWhaler     
Any body hello!!! Hello!

I could sure use some help, some body must have some type of experience or at least some pics of a 19'10" I donít even know what it's suppose to look like?

Come on say anything

SpinyDiver
MGD

dfmcintyre posted 12-11-2001 08:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for dfmcintyre  Send Email to dfmcintyre     
regarding the "step".... are you talking about the edge where the rub rail mounts to the boat, overlapping the bottom (factory called the bottom a "sled") and the top portion (factory called the skin)?

Or

is the "step" the little 1/2 round molded in lip that runs along the top of the skin?

In either case, if the 19 is like the old 21, _both_ run all around the perimeter of the hull.

Best - Don

BurntWhaler posted 12-11-2001 09:20 AM ET (US)     Profile for BurntWhaler  Send Email to BurntWhaler     
Iím sorry Dan, what I meant was on the deck facing fwd from the cc the step up on the deck I want to extend the skin portion in about 14" all around the front rail
jimh posted 12-11-2001 09:27 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
--What's Wrong With This Picture?--

There are over twenty photographs of 1970's era Outrage 21's in Cetacea. Have you looked at these?

lhg posted 12-11-2001 03:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Jim - His is what's called a 19 Outrage, but you also have pictures of those, including the Low Profile model which nicely shows the hull without the topsides.
bigz posted 12-11-2001 03:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for bigz    
I emailed you a photo Jim and supplied Burnt with one. The 19'10" is the V-20 Outrage as it was first called when the "slab" sides were still in production. Then became the Outrage 20 after production ended on the original Outrage.

Z

BurntWhaler posted 12-12-2001 09:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for BurntWhaler  Send Email to BurntWhaler     
Jimh the pics on the forum are not that detailed of the inside, all I need are pics of the inside 19'10" 1979. what I would like to do is replicate it! But if I can't. I would like a little more walking room on the front lip. (For throwing bait net or flying or just get a higher view of the flats)

Bigz thank you I did get the photo.

BurntWhaler posted 12-16-2001 11:25 AM ET (US)     Profile for BurntWhaler  Send Email to BurntWhaler     
Help any one!
dfmcintyre posted 12-17-2001 02:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for dfmcintyre  Send Email to dfmcintyre     
Burnt -

Now I'm confused, based on "Z's" earlier post of 12/11.

The early 21's and 19's were, essentially a three piece boat. There was a lower section that used two sections for the inside and outside of the lower hull, then an additional piece that was not double skinned with foam inside, that was the upper or skin section.

As Z pointed out (I was unaware of this detail) the 19's were actually the 20' and was a two section boat, with the foam going all the way up to the top of the gunnel.

Which one do you have?

Don

BurntWhaler posted 12-18-2001 11:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for BurntWhaler  Send Email to BurntWhaler     
The foam on my boat goes all the way up the gunnels the hole boat is foam core all of it.
jimh posted 12-18-2001 12:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I have been browsing my photo collection (electronically) and I may have a couple of shots of a 19-foot/20-foot Outrage similar to the one you are trying to repair.

I will try to post these in a Cetacea article in the near future.

--jimh

bigz posted 12-18-2001 01:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for bigz    
Confusing isn't it!

The only 19'10" Outrage (beam 7'5")is the deep V 20 model first built in Fall of '77.

The Slab sided Revenge and Outrage were still in production at the time the deep V Outrage was introduced.

The photo of the interior from the console forward I sent to BurntWhaler is the 19'10" deep V 20, which would latter be called just the Outrage 20.

BurntWhaler posted 12-19-2001 11:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for BurntWhaler  Send Email to BurntWhaler     
Ok.... sorry for all the confusion.

Don sorry about the dan.

I think bigz is right because itís not the low profile like the gray fire rescue boat. It looks a lot like the boat with the dude in the canary island the one with the twin engines, but not a 22'.
So from know on I think itís a 20'outrage?? Ok.
jimh thanks I will be looking for the Cetacea pics.
I got pics of my 20'outrage if any one wants to see a BurntWhaler it looks ugly but it will get better.

Thank you all.

BurntWhaler20outrage go back to work!

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