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SuburbanBoy posted 01-28-2002 04:14 PM ET (US)   Profile for SuburbanBoy   Send Email to SuburbanBoy  
In the newest Cetacea (Page 50) at: http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage50.html
There is a picture at the end of the article, which shows the mounting system for the front swivel seat on the Striper. Is the wooden spacer original? I purchased a used front swivel seat set-up, and want to make sure that I don't damage anything, and ensure that it is as securely fastened as it was originally designed. Mine also has an aluminum plate which I believe should be mounted inside. When properly installed, is this seat safe to sit in when underway?

It was nice to read that the hole into hull, exposing the discolored yellow foam was supposed to be there and can function as an observation port into the foam. I always suspected this, but the reassurance was nice. This blowhole access to the hull foam is proof that the designers were not concerned with the foam absorbing water, as this compartment can be left open to sea. My Striper has a rubber drain plug installed, which I usually drain after I pull the boat out, or on the rare occasion I take water over the bow.

I always referred to this area as the anchor locker. The cover for my anchor locker has seen better days. Mine is of plywood construction, with a nice chrome plated pull recessed into the cover. The photo shows a pull hole, which is very different from my arrangement. Were both styles OEM, or was my cover replaced and the previous owner added the nice, flush mounted pull? Any suggestions for a supplier of the anchor locker cover?
Thanks,

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JBCornwell posted 01-28-2002 04:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
Howdy SB. I'm not sure about the 15, but on a 2nd generation 17 the walls of the anchor locker bulkhead are neither parallel nor perpendicular to the top. Each is 7 degrees off of vertical. Thus two wood wedges are necessary to keep the mount and the backing plate parallel.

A square will tell you quickly whether the 15 has the same requirement.

Chuck at BW downloaded me an exploded view of the installation on the 17. It might help you out. It does not show a wedge on the inside of the locker, but take my word for it, it is required.

BW strictly forbade riding in the pedestal seat when underway. It seems sound to me, but I'll take their word for it.

If you want to see pics of the installation on my Montauk, just holler.

Red sky at night. . .
JB :)

russellbailey posted 01-28-2002 05:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for russellbailey  Send Email to russellbailey     
Our 1980 15' Striper has the wood spacer like the one in Cetacea. I'm sure it is original.

There was a warning that came with the boat about not using the front seat when underway - I can't recall if it was in the manual or where - I think it may have been a sticker on the seat mount. I wouldn't want to be in in at more than an idle.

where2 posted 01-28-2002 05:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for where2  Send Email to where2     
On my 15' Sport, the previous owner had installed a Pedestal seat base in the forward locker cover. (using the 3/4" pin variety of post, not the 2" pipe variety). He forewarned me about not leaving the seat in that hole while underway, let alone actually riding in that seat. For starters, you're blocking the driver's view. I would be concerned about the amount of wood backing material between the front and rear portions of the anchor locker bulkhead. From the diagrams on the site here, it looks like you have a 1/2"x4"x18" on each face of the fiberglass to attach through. Be sure to keep your holes through the wood backing.
Whaler15 posted 01-28-2002 09:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler15  Send Email to Whaler15     
Mine is a 1981 15' Striper. Yes, the wood spacer is original, mounted on the outside, thicker side up. The aluminum plate mounts on the inside of the well.

DO NOT let anyone ride in the front seat while underway, especially someone who is heavy. I made the mistake of letting my 200# first mate ride there, hit some waves, and ruined the bracket. It was very difficult finding a replacement.

Hope that helps.

SuburbanBoy posted 01-28-2002 09:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for SuburbanBoy  Send Email to SuburbanBoy     
The "don't ride" advise probably explains why my external bracket has a crack. I will have it weld reparied soon. Any dimensions and/or prints of the wedges would be most helpful.

Thanks,

sub

bc posted 01-28-2002 10:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for bc    
Mine hase the wood spacer also. I ended up taking the bracket off and leaving the wood to hide discolored jelcoat. I ended up installing the 3/4" pin base as mentioned above. I personally didn't like the origals seating position, and my wood locker cover was delamintated anyway. So I painted the locker cover black and installed pin bracket. The '81 locker wooden locker cover is lamenated teak plywood and is hard to refinish. I like this seating setup better, leaves you with more room.
CUOffshore posted 01-29-2002 10:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for CUOffshore  Send Email to CUOffshore     
As stated above, yes, the wood spacer is a factory item. I don't allow anyone to sit in that frontseat while underway, either. I'm more concerned about someone being propelled forward should I come to a sudden stop than I am about the strength of the seat, though. You'll find that the pedestal can be lowered all the way down to the floor of the cockpit. It's rock-solid that way. As far as leaving the seat up there while running, as long as the seat back is down, it really isn't that much of an obstruction to my view.

Regards,

David Roach

csj posted 01-29-2002 10:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for csj  Send Email to csj     
suburbanboy, I owned a beautiful 1981 15' striper, which had the identical bow seat configuration. the wood spacer is original, and if installed correctly will support an adult while underway. good luck
jameso posted 01-29-2002 01:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for jameso  Send Email to jameso     
I removed and sold the seat from my 15, the wood wedege is necessary. If you need to compute the angle of the wedge, float the boat and measure the angle of the forward bulkhead from true vertical, make the wedge the same angle. If I were doing one now I would try to get a piece of starboard or micarta. AND NEVER RIDE IN THE BOW SEAT WHILE UNDERWAY!!!
Jim Armstrong
SuburbanBoy posted 01-30-2002 03:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for SuburbanBoy  Send Email to SuburbanBoy     
Jameso, I bought your seat. I must have missed the wooden wedge. I will have one made up.

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where2 posted 01-30-2002 04:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for where2  Send Email to where2     
While sitting at my parents place last night, I happened to notice an old Whaler (late 80's-early 90's before the Rage, Sea Drives were an option, no copyright dates to know for sure what year it was) brochure in a magazine rack. Sure enough, looking at the 15' striper there's the optional bow seat. Shows the boat on plane with the seat folded down (unoccupied). When Dad pulled out his "newer" brochures ('93-'98), I realized what a poor job the new brochures do of showing you the various boats.

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