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Ray posted 02-04-2002 08:07 PM ET (US)
I am thinking of replacing my Sierra water separator with a Racor that has a see-through plastic bowl at the bottom. I like the idea of seeing the water accumulating so it can be drained off as it collects. With my Sierra setup it is a guessing game and I'm concerned that it may go too long and water runover into the engine. Has anybody had some good experiece with the Racor unit?
Ray
dgp posted 02-04-2002 08:14 PM ET (US)
Ray, check out this thread http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/001233.html
tuna1 posted 02-04-2002 09:44 PM ET (US)
The CLEAR Bowl Racor filters should only be used in a diesel fuel system.The full metal bowls are for gas systems.Any plastic bowl may develop cracks when certain fuel additives are used.Coast Guard Regs demand full metal systems with a gas system.
LarrySherman posted 02-04-2002 09:58 PM ET (US)
Not exactly true, at least in CT. I believe CG regs require that all metal bowls be used when the filter is mounted in the same compartment as an inboard. I have the plastic bowl on mine, mounted in the starboard aft locker of my outrage.
The point is not lost on me however. Metal is MUCH better, just tough to find off-the shelf.
Larry
gvisko posted 02-04-2002 10:13 PM ET (US)
the metal is for io's and plastic is for
outboards says right in the instructions
Clark Roberts posted 02-05-2002 08:00 AM ET (US)
I have used the Racor with outboards for years (on many different boats) and have never had one crack or craze. If you must go full metal you can look into installing a filter from an Optimax Merc which has a "water in gas" sensor to which you could fashion a warning light and/or horn! The Opti filter is smaller than a reg filter and may require some searching for a proper housing... I have one hanging on the wall, think I'll go check! Happy Whalin' .. Clark.. Tool Shack Div. of Spruce Creek Navy
kingfish posted 02-05-2002 08:38 AM ET (US)
Ray-
I think tuna1 is mistakenly referring to an enclosed installation or something, as Larry S suggested. The type you are referring to is clearly articulated by Racor to be the proper installation, you see them every where , and it's what I have. Very happy with mine.
My Outrage 22' came with that type of Racor filter, but the dealer who did the initial install located it on the inside transom wall below the notched transom, and it was pointed out to me (by LHG, I think) that as such, the whole unit was subject to submersion in condiions that really wouldn't have to be very extreme. I have since moved it to the port gunwale wall over the motor well just under the gunwale deck. Gained about 8" in elevation, and if it gets submerged in that location, I'll have a Whaler story to share with the forum...
kingfish
Guts posted 02-05-2002 08:51 AM ET (US)
Hello, You might take a look at a Racor filter ( 120-RAC-01 ) This is a perfict filter for a montauk,and others also.
The white Racor filters are for gas and the tan filters are for diesel. good luck!
Guts
PS filter # is ( S3240 )
Dave Murray posted 02-05-2002 02:45 PM ET (US)
I'v used the "clear bottom" Racor for the past ten years and always found them to be easy to use very reliable. Before I changed out the 63 gal internal fuel tank on my 78 20' Outrage last spring, I really needed the clear bottom to watch for and empty water before it got into the 150 Yamaha...Racors are an excellent value....PS- I still watch it even with the new tank...
Peter posted 02-05-2002 04:14 PM ET (US)
I've used one of the "clear bottom" plastic bowl Racor filter/water separator in both my 18 Outrage and 22 Revenge. Never had a problem and have rarely found more than a teaspoon full of water in either of them after a full season up here.
Ray posted 02-05-2002 10:03 PM ET (US)
Hey guys, this is good stuff, thanks. Next question. How often do you have to change the filter on this type of setup? I was dumping about a pint of water out of the old Sierra filter after putting about 150 gallons through it. That's with WaterZorb added! I'm thinking that with the plastic bowl and drain valve that the filter will last longer.
Also Kingfish, I sure miss seeing your whaler pass by our stern as I look at the snow out the window...You got the itch like I do????
Ray
kingfish posted 02-05-2002 10:39 PM ET (US)
The itch has turned into a full-blown rash, Ray - I haven't started breaking things just so I could fix them yet, but I wish ol' Punxatawnie Phil hadn't seen his shadow...
(Penn. natives please forgive me if I've murdered the correct spelling)
Guts posted 02-07-2002 08:25 AM ET (US)
OOPs Sorry the Racor filter # is (120R-RAC-01 ) The larger size can be seen on page 41 of the cetacea.

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Author	Topic: Racor Fuel/Water Separator
Ray	posted 02-04-2002 08:07 PM ET (US) I am thinking of replacing my Sierra water separator with a Racor that has a see-through plastic bowl at the bottom. I like the idea of seeing the water accumulating so it can be drained off as it collects. With my Sierra setup it is a guessing game and I'm concerned that it may go too long and water runover into the engine. Has anybody had some good experiece with the Racor unit? Ray
dgp	posted 02-04-2002 08:14 PM ET (US) Ray, check out this thread http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/001233.html
tuna1	posted 02-04-2002 09:44 PM ET (US) The CLEAR Bowl Racor filters should only be used in a diesel fuel system.The full metal bowls are for gas systems.Any plastic bowl may develop cracks when certain fuel additives are used.Coast Guard Regs demand full metal systems with a gas system.
LarrySherman	posted 02-04-2002 09:58 PM ET (US) Not exactly true, at least in CT. I believe CG regs require that all metal bowls be used when the filter is mounted in the same compartment as an inboard. I have the plastic bowl on mine, mounted in the starboard aft locker of my outrage. The point is not lost on me however. Metal is MUCH better, just tough to find off-the shelf. Larry
gvisko	posted 02-04-2002 10:13 PM ET (US) the metal is for io's and plastic is for outboards says right in the instructions
Clark Roberts	posted 02-05-2002 08:00 AM ET (US) I have used the Racor with outboards for years (on many different boats) and have never had one crack or craze. If you must go full metal you can look into installing a filter from an Optimax Merc which has a "water in gas" sensor to which you could fashion a warning light and/or horn! The Opti filter is smaller than a reg filter and may require some searching for a proper housing... I have one hanging on the wall, think I'll go check! Happy Whalin' .. Clark.. Tool Shack Div. of Spruce Creek Navy
kingfish	posted 02-05-2002 08:38 AM ET (US) Ray- I think tuna1 is mistakenly referring to an enclosed installation or something, as Larry S suggested. The type you are referring to is clearly articulated by Racor to be the proper installation, you see them every where , and it's what I have. Very happy with mine. My Outrage 22' came with that type of Racor filter, but the dealer who did the initial install located it on the inside transom wall below the notched transom, and it was pointed out to me (by LHG, I think) that as such, the whole unit was subject to submersion in condiions that really wouldn't have to be very extreme. I have since moved it to the port gunwale wall over the motor well just under the gunwale deck. Gained about 8" in elevation, and if it gets submerged in that location, I'll have a Whaler story to share with the forum... kingfish
Guts	posted 02-05-2002 08:51 AM ET (US) Hello, You might take a look at a Racor filter ( 120-RAC-01 ) This is a perfict filter for a montauk,and others also. The white Racor filters are for gas and the tan filters are for diesel. good luck! Guts PS filter # is ( S3240 )
Dave Murray	posted 02-05-2002 02:45 PM ET (US) I'v used the "clear bottom" Racor for the past ten years and always found them to be easy to use very reliable. Before I changed out the 63 gal internal fuel tank on my 78 20' Outrage last spring, I really needed the clear bottom to watch for and empty water before it got into the 150 Yamaha...Racors are an excellent value....PS- I still watch it even with the new tank...
Peter	posted 02-05-2002 04:14 PM ET (US) I've used one of the "clear bottom" plastic bowl Racor filter/water separator in both my 18 Outrage and 22 Revenge. Never had a problem and have rarely found more than a teaspoon full of water in either of them after a full season up here.
Ray	posted 02-05-2002 10:03 PM ET (US) Hey guys, this is good stuff, thanks. Next question. How often do you have to change the filter on this type of setup? I was dumping about a pint of water out of the old Sierra filter after putting about 150 gallons through it. That's with WaterZorb added! I'm thinking that with the plastic bowl and drain valve that the filter will last longer. Also Kingfish, I sure miss seeing your whaler pass by our stern as I look at the snow out the window...You got the itch like I do???? Ray
kingfish	posted 02-05-2002 10:39 PM ET (US) The itch has turned into a full-blown rash, Ray - I haven't started breaking things just so I could fix them yet, but I wish ol' Punxatawnie Phil hadn't seen his shadow... (Penn. natives please forgive me if I've murdered the correct spelling)
Guts	posted 02-07-2002 08:25 AM ET (US) OOPs Sorry the Racor filter # is (120R-RAC-01 ) The larger size can be seen on page 41 of the cetacea.