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Bob K posted 02-11-2002 03:01 PM ET (US)   Profile for Bob K   Send Email to Bob K  
Based on my previous questions, most of you probably already know that I'm trying to restore an early 60's 13'. So far, all of you have been great with the help. Thanks.

Now for the next two questions.

1. The mahogony bow locker cover measures
9 7/8" x 42 3/4" x 3/4". In the port and starboard edges (9 7/8") there are double grooves cut. The first is 5/16" wide x 1/4" deep. In the middle of the first groove there is a second groove 3/16" wide x 1/2" deep. The second groove does not go deep enough to contact the screws which hold the cover finger holds. Was there some type of spleen used in the edges? If so, what kind and out of what material. The wood is so old (and abused) that it is hard to tell.

2. Some previous owner made a console out of a mahogony which is much more red in color. If I can find good honduras mahogony I would like to replace the console. However, I would like to use the original design. Does anyone have the specs for the original design?

Thanks again,
Bob Karr

Tom W Clark posted 02-11-2002 03:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Bob K,

No spleens (nor slines) were used. The grooves in the edges of the bow locker cover were for an insert made of fabric covered rubber or vinyl or some similar spongy material. I believe it was a friction fitting device to help keep the lid in place.

I have drawings for the Sport 13 wood parts. email me your mailing address and I'll send them to you.

Bigshot posted 02-11-2002 03:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
If I understand your question, you just cut the wood, forget about what was there and do like the newer designs and hold it down with a bungee. The original holddowns were not a great design and they later changed to a fingerhole to lift from and a small bungee holding the cover n place. I prefer to use hinges, especially in a 13.
Bob K posted 02-11-2002 03:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bob K  Send Email to Bob K     
Boy, is my face red!!! What was I thinking of when I said "spleen"?

Tom and Bigshot, thanks for the info, I like the idea of a bungee. Do you put an eye on the bottom side of the cover and attach the bungee to the????????????

Tom W Clark posted 02-11-2002 03:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Put a pad eye on the underside of the cover straddling a bungee cord. Hook both kooks of the bungee on a second pad eye screwed to the bottom of the locker.

I actually think this is kind of an awkward arrangement and would prefer hinges as BS does.

Bigshot posted 02-11-2002 03:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Mine have the bungee which keeps it from slamming but the hinges keep it in the boat:)Personally on a 13, just screw it down because you can't fit anything bigger than a fire extinguisher in there.
Samars posted 02-11-2002 05:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Samars  Send Email to Samars     

A bungee is a good idea, I have a 1967 Boston Whaler 13. It still has the two side handles for the front locker cover. True it is small and little fits, but mine is as original as I can make it. I used good heavy duty velcro on the inside and even at speed, chop whatever it has stayed in place.
Thought you'd like another two cents worth and a different solution.

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