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PMUCCIOLO posted 02-14-2002 03:54 AM ET (US)   Profile for PMUCCIOLO  
I would like to put a custom steering wheel on my 17'Alert. I have seen three, and would like to know if anyone has any suggestions: (1)Schmitt Control Knob Stainless Steel Finger Grip Wheel, (2)Edson Power Wheel, (3)Power Knob Wheel (?manufacturer) as seen on Boat Test 2219 (270 Outrage) in March 2002 Boating.
PMUCCIOLO posted 03-07-2002 12:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for PMUCCIOLO    
Any thoughts? Suggestions? When I do order the new wheel, is there a certain size, angle, and thread type to order for the new nut to secure it?
BOB KEMMLER JR posted 03-07-2002 03:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for BOB KEMMLER JR    
I THINK THEY ARE ALL A UNIVERSAL FIT.
Bigshot posted 03-08-2002 10:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Believe they are 3/4" shaft with a 5/8" nut. All wheels are universal except a few.
jimh posted 03-08-2002 11:25 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I believe the OEM wheel on Whalers was made by GRANT PRODUCTS.

See: http://www.grantproducts.com/marine.html

[Note: Their website uses frames which makes pointing to a particular section impossible. Also, their default opening pages crashes some browsers with an Out-of-Memory error. Their steering wheels are probably much better than their website design.]

Chesapeake posted 03-08-2002 11:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chesapeake  Send Email to Chesapeake     
I know someone who, I think, is still looking for a 6 spoke defender if you decide to sell your old wheel.

Let me know availability and a price and I will check for you.

Bob

Bigshot posted 03-08-2002 11:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
You can get the 5's for $30.
gunnelgrabber posted 03-08-2002 12:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for gunnelgrabber  Send Email to gunnelgrabber     
i've always wanted one!..so how much more is the obviously higher status,more desirable 6 spoke wheel?...hardly ever see them for sale used ,or at yard sales, around my neighborhood.thanks...lm
Tom W Clark posted 03-08-2002 12:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Paul,

To answer your question about fit and size, yes, steering wheels are almost, but not quite, universal in how they mount. What you are looking for is a 3/4" tapered shaft with keyway. If you are trying to match the size of what came with most 17' Whalers, it is a 15" diameter wheel with a 25 "dish" to it. In other words, you get more finger room behind the rim of the wheel than with the flatter 10 "dish" wheels.

Bigshot posted 03-08-2002 12:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
The aftermarkets have the deep dish. I have an original 1" 6 spoke that weighs 3 times the one on my Montauk. There are different quality wheels but the aftermarket $30 are about as good as the one factory on my Montauk.
Tom W Clark posted 03-08-2002 05:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Paul,

Here's one possible source for the Edson Power Wheel along with the different sizes and mountings

http://www.caribeeboats.com/edson.html

Ouch! $335 for the wheel plus another $34 for the nut.

In the case of these kinds of wheels, the dish angle is going to be whatever is. You need only decide what diameter you need and then get the 3/4" shaft model.

PMUCCIOLO posted 03-11-2002 12:19 AM ET (US)     Profile for PMUCCIOLO    
Thank you for the input! I'll keep you posted as to the results of my shopping.

Paul

BOB KEMMLER JR posted 03-11-2002 08:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for BOB KEMMLER JR    
Hey bigshot where can you get those stainless wheels for $30.00? that would be a good replacement for what i have.
gunnelgrabber posted 03-11-2002 11:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for gunnelgrabber  Send Email to gunnelgrabber     
a second on that motion... was in a west marine in panama city this sat. looking at the ss wheels.they had a 5 spoke one for $70.00! ....help! bigshot! where is this magic $30 wheel place? thanks...lm
Tom W Clark posted 03-11-2002 11:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Leland and Bob,

Ebay. There's even a six spoke wheel for sale there now, though it looks like a shallow dish. Any day of the week sees several of these wheels up for auction. You should be able to get one for $30 -$40.

13sport posted 03-11-2002 12:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for 13sport    
Surplus unlimited has five spoke 15 1/2 SS Steering wheels for $35. I just got one. I am pleased with the way it looks. I will see in a year or two if it was really a good buy.

https://www.surplusunlimited.com/storefront.htm

Sport

13sport posted 03-11-2002 12:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for 13sport    
Try this one.

www.surplusunlimited.com

BOB KEMMLER JR posted 03-11-2002 01:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for BOB KEMMLER JR    
Thanks i think im going to order one for the rage.does anyone have the destroyer wheel with the rubber grip?im curious if the coating stays on?
triblet posted 03-11-2002 11:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
I agree with jimh about Grant's web site
design. If you jump into the middle, their
shopping cart function complains that you
don't allow cookies (I do). It works if
you start at their home page and drill down.

Then after you get stuff in their shopping
cart, you go to check out, and find they say
"take this sheet to your Grant dealer, and
buy from them". But they don't have a
dealer finder.

And it has that awful race car sound on
the home page. Websites should be quiet.

It's a candidate for "Web Sites that Suck".

But they have the wheel I've wanted for some
time (15" with rubber some my hands don't
freeze without gloves). Now to find a
dealer.


Chuck

PMUCCIOLO posted 03-12-2002 02:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for PMUCCIOLO    
Chuck,

If you want a rubber-coated steering wheel, you are welcomed to mine. I'm going to have it pulled in the next week or so when its replacement arrives. Let me know.

Paul

gunnelgrabber posted 03-12-2002 09:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for gunnelgrabber  Send Email to gunnelgrabber     
appreciate the help,guys. thanks...lm
BOB KEMMLER JR posted 03-12-2002 10:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for BOB KEMMLER JR    
Hey chuck if you pass on that wheel id be interested.
PMUCCIOLO posted 03-13-2002 03:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for PMUCCIOLO    
I'll be happy to mail the steering wheel (after I get my new one, of course) to anyone who wants it.

Thanks for all your help!
Paul

Bigshot posted 03-13-2002 10:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
That wheel you want is now being made aftermarket in SS for $125(with knob). The defenders are avilable on E-Bay and that surplus links. If anyone is still having issues getting one under $40..e-mail me.
PMUCCIOLO posted 03-14-2002 12:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for PMUCCIOLO    
BIGSHOT,
Would you give me more specific directions in finding these steering wheels? I can't seem to locate the sites other than the one for Edson, and that thing is over $300!

Thanks for your help!
Paul

Tom W Clark posted 03-14-2002 01:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Paul,

The Schmitt Control Knob Wheel can be had at Boaters World for $99.99 ( http://www.ritzcamera.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ExecMacro/boatersworld/home.d2w/report?Krypto=0xTbhRcOn6d2ypSTFtyq6qPjT%2FVrsqAumYjNqwQ7di8l9Xm56%2BvSXlEt9fHSdeP2L9d6LETYoc3tiHf1laSCCCYyYMrjjY%2BwgYIUyX4RqRzJr0bgEF8wxHQ6nn7xMUd88BXCNIlIzmdKbHIVAAadD5AW%2BqNHgWAQzRI1uEbI%2Ftv8tfKE%2FtYKQs8GPnhTL1poNbkMXrCSjjI%3D

They also have what they call a "Traditional Marine Wheel", a one piece tri-spoke aluminum wheel with knob for $159.99

Tom W Clark posted 03-14-2002 01:31 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Sorry. Mangled url. Try this: http://www.ritzcamera.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=5665420&prmenbr=54302&STORENAMEPASS=boatersworld&vcgrfnbr=&cgrfnbr=&cgmenbr=
Bigshot posted 03-14-2002 10:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Darn you people are lazy. Everybody is carrying these things now. Must be driving the $350 guys nuts. They are nice wheels but I do not think they look right on a Montauk. or else I would have bought one. E-mail these guys....they have them and will ship. They also have jack plates for $135.

http://www.bindersmarinesupply.com

Bigshot posted 03-14-2002 10:42 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
PS this is the 3 spoke solid SS wheel with the knob, like you see on Vikings, etc. They have 2 sizes, you want the bigger one.
PMUCCIOLO posted 03-15-2002 02:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for PMUCCIOLO    
Thanks for the assistance! I'm off to shop!
Paul

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