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PMUCCIOLO posted 02-14-2002 03:54 AM ET (US)
I would like to put a custom steering wheel on my 17'Alert. I have seen three, and would like to know if anyone has any suggestions: (1)Schmitt Control Knob Stainless Steel Finger Grip Wheel, (2)Edson Power Wheel, (3)Power Knob Wheel (?manufacturer) as seen on Boat Test 2219 (270 Outrage) in March 2002 Boating.
PMUCCIOLO posted 03-07-2002 12:07 AM ET (US)
Any thoughts? Suggestions? When I do order the new wheel, is there a certain size, angle, and thread type to order for the new nut to secure it?
BOB KEMMLER JR posted 03-07-2002 03:37 PM ET (US)
I THINK THEY ARE ALL A UNIVERSAL FIT.
Bigshot posted 03-08-2002 10:29 AM ET (US)
Believe they are 3/4" shaft with a 5/8" nut. All wheels are universal except a few.
jimh posted 03-08-2002 11:25 AM ET (US)
I believe the OEM wheel on Whalers was made by GRANT PRODUCTS.
See: http://www.grantproducts.com/marine.html
[Note: Their website uses frames which makes pointing to a particular section impossible. Also, their default opening pages crashes some browsers with an Out-of-Memory error. Their steering wheels are probably much better than their website design.]
Chesapeake posted 03-08-2002 11:41 AM ET (US)
I know someone who, I think, is still looking for a 6 spoke defender if you decide to sell your old wheel.
Let me know availability and a price and I will check for you.
Bob
Bigshot posted 03-08-2002 11:45 AM ET (US)
You can get the 5's for $30.
gunnelgrabber posted 03-08-2002 12:03 PM ET (US)
i've always wanted one!..so how much more is the obviously higher status,more desirable 6 spoke wheel?...hardly ever see them for sale used ,or at yard sales, around my neighborhood.thanks...lm
Tom W Clark posted 03-08-2002 12:30 PM ET (US)
Paul,
To answer your question about fit and size, yes, steering wheels are almost, but not quite, universal in how they mount. What you are looking for is a 3/4" tapered shaft with keyway. If you are trying to match the size of what came with most 17' Whalers, it is a 15" diameter wheel with a 25° "dish" to it. In other words, you get more finger room behind the rim of the wheel than with the flatter 10° "dish" wheels.
Bigshot posted 03-08-2002 12:35 PM ET (US)
The aftermarkets have the deep dish. I have an original 1" 6 spoke that weighs 3 times the one on my Montauk. There are different quality wheels but the aftermarket $30 are about as good as the one factory on my Montauk.
Tom W Clark posted 03-08-2002 05:10 PM ET (US)
Paul,
Here's one possible source for the Edson Power Wheel along with the different sizes and mountings
http://www.caribeeboats.com/edson.html
Ouch! $335 for the wheel plus another $34 for the nut.
In the case of these kinds of wheels, the dish angle is going to be whatever is. You need only decide what diameter you need and then get the 3/4" shaft model.
PMUCCIOLO posted 03-11-2002 12:19 AM ET (US)
Thank you for the input! I'll keep you posted as to the results of my shopping.
Paul
BOB KEMMLER JR posted 03-11-2002 08:23 AM ET (US)
Hey bigshot where can you get those stainless wheels for $30.00? that would be a good replacement for what i have.
gunnelgrabber posted 03-11-2002 11:33 AM ET (US)
a second on that motion... was in a west marine in panama city this sat. looking at the ss wheels.they had a 5 spoke one for $70.00! ....help! bigshot! where is this magic $30 wheel place? thanks...lm
Tom W Clark posted 03-11-2002 11:44 AM ET (US)
Leland and Bob,
Ebay. There's even a six spoke wheel for sale there now, though it looks like a shallow dish. Any day of the week sees several of these wheels up for auction. You should be able to get one for $30 -$40.
13sport posted 03-11-2002 12:34 PM ET (US)
Surplus unlimited has five spoke 15 1/2 SS Steering wheels for $35. I just got one. I am pleased with the way it looks. I will see in a year or two if it was really a good buy.
https://www.surplusunlimited.com/storefront.htm
Sport
13sport posted 03-11-2002 12:37 PM ET (US)
Try this one.
www.surplusunlimited.com
BOB KEMMLER JR posted 03-11-2002 01:13 PM ET (US)
Thanks i think im going to order one for the rage.does anyone have the destroyer wheel with the rubber grip?im curious if the coating stays on?
triblet posted 03-11-2002 11:57 PM ET (US)
I agree with jimh about Grant's web site
design. If you jump into the middle, their
shopping cart function complains that you
don't allow cookies (I do). It works if
you start at their home page and drill down.
Then after you get stuff in their shopping
cart, you go to check out, and find they say
"take this sheet to your Grant dealer, and
buy from them". But they don't have a
dealer finder.
And it has that awful race car sound on
the home page. Websites should be quiet.
It's a candidate for "Web Sites that Suck".
But they have the wheel I've wanted for some
time (15" with rubber some my hands don't
freeze without gloves). Now to find a
dealer.

Chuck
PMUCCIOLO posted 03-12-2002 02:11 AM ET (US)
Chuck,
If you want a rubber-coated steering wheel, you are welcomed to mine. I'm going to have it pulled in the next week or so when its replacement arrives. Let me know.
Paul
gunnelgrabber posted 03-12-2002 09:22 AM ET (US)
appreciate the help,guys. thanks...lm
BOB KEMMLER JR posted 03-12-2002 10:30 AM ET (US)
Hey chuck if you pass on that wheel id be interested.
PMUCCIOLO posted 03-13-2002 03:11 AM ET (US)
I'll be happy to mail the steering wheel (after I get my new one, of course) to anyone who wants it.
Thanks for all your help!
Paul
Bigshot posted 03-13-2002 10:41 AM ET (US)
That wheel you want is now being made aftermarket in SS for $125(with knob). The defenders are avilable on E-Bay and that surplus links. If anyone is still having issues getting one under $40..e-mail me.
PMUCCIOLO posted 03-14-2002 12:36 AM ET (US)
BIGSHOT,
Would you give me more specific directions in finding these steering wheels? I can't seem to locate the sites other than the one for Edson, and that thing is over $300!
Thanks for your help!
Paul
Tom W Clark posted 03-14-2002 01:28 AM ET (US)
Paul,
The Schmitt Control Knob Wheel can be had at Boaters World for $99.99 ( http://www.ritzcamera.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ExecMacro/boatersworld/home.d2w/report?Krypto=0xTbhRcOn6d2ypSTFtyq6qPjT%2FVrsqAumYjNqwQ7di8l9Xm56%2BvSXlEt9fHSdeP2L9d6LETYoc3tiHf1laSCCCYyYMrjjY%2BwgYIUyX4RqRzJr0bgEF8wxHQ6nn7xMUd88BXCNIlIzmdKbHIVAAadD5AW%2BqNHgWAQzRI1uEbI%2Ftv8tfKE%2FtYKQs8GPnhTL1poNbkMXrCSjjI%3D
They also have what they call a "Traditional Marine Wheel", a one piece tri-spoke aluminum wheel with knob for $159.99
Tom W Clark posted 03-14-2002 01:31 AM ET (US)
Sorry. Mangled url. Try this: http://www.ritzcamera.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=5665420&prmenbr=54302&STORENAMEPASS=boatersworld&vcgrfnbr=&cgrfnbr=&cgmenbr=
Bigshot posted 03-14-2002 10:41 AM ET (US)
Darn you people are lazy. Everybody is carrying these things now. Must be driving the $350 guys nuts. They are nice wheels but I do not think they look right on a Montauk. or else I would have bought one. E-mail these guys....they have them and will ship. They also have jack plates for $135.
http://www.bindersmarinesupply.com
Bigshot posted 03-14-2002 10:42 AM ET (US)
PS this is the 3 spoke solid SS wheel with the knob, like you see on Vikings, etc. They have 2 sizes, you want the bigger one.
PMUCCIOLO posted 03-15-2002 02:30 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the assistance! I'm off to shop!
Paul

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Author	Topic: STEERING WHEEL
PMUCCIOLO	posted 02-14-2002 03:54 AM ET (US) I would like to put a custom steering wheel on my 17'Alert. I have seen three, and would like to know if anyone has any suggestions: (1)Schmitt Control Knob Stainless Steel Finger Grip Wheel, (2)Edson Power Wheel, (3)Power Knob Wheel (?manufacturer) as seen on Boat Test 2219 (270 Outrage) in March 2002 Boating.
PMUCCIOLO	posted 03-07-2002 12:07 AM ET (US) Any thoughts? Suggestions? When I do order the new wheel, is there a certain size, angle, and thread type to order for the new nut to secure it?
BOB KEMMLER JR	posted 03-07-2002 03:37 PM ET (US) I THINK THEY ARE ALL A UNIVERSAL FIT.
Bigshot	posted 03-08-2002 10:29 AM ET (US) Believe they are 3/4" shaft with a 5/8" nut. All wheels are universal except a few.
jimh	posted 03-08-2002 11:25 AM ET (US) I believe the OEM wheel on Whalers was made by GRANT PRODUCTS. See: http://www.grantproducts.com/marine.html [Note: Their website uses frames which makes pointing to a particular section impossible. Also, their default opening pages crashes some browsers with an Out-of-Memory error. Their steering wheels are probably much better than their website design.]
Chesapeake	posted 03-08-2002 11:41 AM ET (US) I know someone who, I think, is still looking for a 6 spoke defender if you decide to sell your old wheel. Let me know availability and a price and I will check for you. Bob
Bigshot	posted 03-08-2002 11:45 AM ET (US) You can get the 5's for $30.
gunnelgrabber	posted 03-08-2002 12:03 PM ET (US) i've always wanted one!..so how much more is the obviously higher status,more desirable 6 spoke wheel?...hardly ever see them for sale used ,or at yard sales, around my neighborhood.thanks...lm
Tom W Clark	posted 03-08-2002 12:30 PM ET (US) Paul, To answer your question about fit and size, yes, steering wheels are almost, but not quite, universal in how they mount. What you are looking for is a 3/4" tapered shaft with keyway. If you are trying to match the size of what came with most 17' Whalers, it is a 15" diameter wheel with a 25° "dish" to it. In other words, you get more finger room behind the rim of the wheel than with the flatter 10° "dish" wheels.
Bigshot	posted 03-08-2002 12:35 PM ET (US) The aftermarkets have the deep dish. I have an original 1" 6 spoke that weighs 3 times the one on my Montauk. There are different quality wheels but the aftermarket $30 are about as good as the one factory on my Montauk.
Tom W Clark	posted 03-08-2002 05:10 PM ET (US) Paul, Here's one possible source for the Edson Power Wheel along with the different sizes and mountings http://www.caribeeboats.com/edson.html Ouch! $335 for the wheel plus another $34 for the nut. In the case of these kinds of wheels, the dish angle is going to be whatever is. You need only decide what diameter you need and then get the 3/4" shaft model.
PMUCCIOLO	posted 03-11-2002 12:19 AM ET (US) Thank you for the input! I'll keep you posted as to the results of my shopping. Paul
BOB KEMMLER JR	posted 03-11-2002 08:23 AM ET (US) Hey bigshot where can you get those stainless wheels for $30.00? that would be a good replacement for what i have.
gunnelgrabber	posted 03-11-2002 11:33 AM ET (US) a second on that motion... was in a west marine in panama city this sat. looking at the ss wheels.they had a 5 spoke one for $70.00! ....help! bigshot! where is this magic $30 wheel place? thanks...lm
Tom W Clark	posted 03-11-2002 11:44 AM ET (US) Leland and Bob, Ebay. There's even a six spoke wheel for sale there now, though it looks like a shallow dish. Any day of the week sees several of these wheels up for auction. You should be able to get one for $30 -$40.
13sport	posted 03-11-2002 12:34 PM ET (US) Surplus unlimited has five spoke 15 1/2 SS Steering wheels for $35. I just got one. I am pleased with the way it looks. I will see in a year or two if it was really a good buy. https://www.surplusunlimited.com/storefront.htm Sport
13sport	posted 03-11-2002 12:37 PM ET (US) Try this one. www.surplusunlimited.com
BOB KEMMLER JR	posted 03-11-2002 01:13 PM ET (US) Thanks i think im going to order one for the rage.does anyone have the destroyer wheel with the rubber grip?im curious if the coating stays on?
triblet	posted 03-11-2002 11:57 PM ET (US) I agree with jimh about Grant's web site design. If you jump into the middle, their shopping cart function complains that you don't allow cookies (I do). It works if you start at their home page and drill down. Then after you get stuff in their shopping cart, you go to check out, and find they say "take this sheet to your Grant dealer, and buy from them". But they don't have a dealer finder. And it has that awful race car sound on the home page. Websites should be quiet. It's a candidate for "Web Sites that Suck". But they have the wheel I've wanted for some time (15" with rubber some my hands don't freeze without gloves). Now to find a dealer. Chuck
PMUCCIOLO	posted 03-12-2002 02:11 AM ET (US) Chuck, If you want a rubber-coated steering wheel, you are welcomed to mine. I'm going to have it pulled in the next week or so when its replacement arrives. Let me know. Paul
gunnelgrabber	posted 03-12-2002 09:22 AM ET (US) appreciate the help,guys. thanks...lm
BOB KEMMLER JR	posted 03-12-2002 10:30 AM ET (US) Hey chuck if you pass on that wheel id be interested.
PMUCCIOLO	posted 03-13-2002 03:11 AM ET (US) I'll be happy to mail the steering wheel (after I get my new one, of course) to anyone who wants it. Thanks for all your help! Paul
Bigshot	posted 03-13-2002 10:41 AM ET (US) That wheel you want is now being made aftermarket in SS for $125(with knob). The defenders are avilable on E-Bay and that surplus links. If anyone is still having issues getting one under $40..e-mail me.
PMUCCIOLO	posted 03-14-2002 12:36 AM ET (US) BIGSHOT, Would you give me more specific directions in finding these steering wheels? I can't seem to locate the sites other than the one for Edson, and that thing is over $300! Thanks for your help! Paul
Tom W Clark	posted 03-14-2002 01:28 AM ET (US) Paul, The Schmitt Control Knob Wheel can be had at Boaters World for $99.99 ( http://www.ritzcamera.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ExecMacro/boatersworld/home.d2w/report?Krypto=0xTbhRcOn6d2ypSTFtyq6qPjT%2FVrsqAumYjNqwQ7di8l9Xm56%2BvSXlEt9fHSdeP2L9d6LETYoc3tiHf1laSCCCYyYMrjjY%2BwgYIUyX4RqRzJr0bgEF8wxHQ6nn7xMUd88BXCNIlIzmdKbHIVAAadD5AW%2BqNHgWAQzRI1uEbI%2Ftv8tfKE%2FtYKQs8GPnhTL1poNbkMXrCSjjI%3D They also have what they call a "Traditional Marine Wheel", a one piece tri-spoke aluminum wheel with knob for $159.99
Tom W Clark	posted 03-14-2002 01:31 AM ET (US) Sorry. Mangled url. Try this: http://www.ritzcamera.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=5665420&prmenbr=54302&STORENAMEPASS=boatersworld&vcgrfnbr=&cgrfnbr=&cgmenbr=
Bigshot	posted 03-14-2002 10:41 AM ET (US) Darn you people are lazy. Everybody is carrying these things now. Must be driving the $350 guys nuts. They are nice wheels but I do not think they look right on a Montauk. or else I would have bought one. E-mail these guys....they have them and will ship. They also have jack plates for $135. http://www.bindersmarinesupply.com
Bigshot	posted 03-14-2002 10:42 AM ET (US) PS this is the 3 spoke solid SS wheel with the knob, like you see on Vikings, etc. They have 2 sizes, you want the bigger one.
PMUCCIOLO	posted 03-15-2002 02:30 AM ET (US) Thanks for the assistance! I'm off to shop! Paul