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|Author||Topic: Mills Canvas|
posted 02-14-2002 09:16 PM ET (US)
Can someone educate me on the Mills products, specifically forward shelters regarding the differences in Mills vs. what a local marine upolstery shop can make, advantages and disadvantages. Also how to get prices on Mills products and why there so expensive.
posted 02-14-2002 11:35 PM ET (US)
Ahoy, Whaler 5.
Tell her what you want quoted.
Mills was/is BW's choice to supply new boats. Their stuff is outstanding and always fits like a new skin. Lasts like rock if you take care of it, too.
Theoretically, your local canvas guy could make it as good, but theoretically the Lions could have won the Super Bowl.
Red sky at night. . .
posted 02-15-2002 08:56 AM ET (US)
Gotta be the most concise reply to that general question I've yet seen - kudos! (just one "v" in "...millscanvas...", though)
And I concur - it's quality stuff.
The year and model of your Whaler will be a large consideration as to whether Mills is a considered option - they have patterns for most "classics", but stopped working with BW at a point some members here are more clear about than I. Leslie will be able to tell you whether they have patterns for your boat or not, but generally I think they don't for the newer models.
posted 02-15-2002 09:21 AM ET (US)
I as most know am an advocate of Mills products.
That stated,whaler 5 you will find that a local quality canvas shop price for an apple to apple forward shelter will be close to if not more than a Mills since the local canvas shop has to design and construct, if Mills has your pattern they only need to construct and ship it ---
I must say shipping is the only area, particularly for the ss bows, where a price difference maybe something which justifies using a local when the basic cost are about the same. Even here it might not be the best idea to save few dollars since you won't know the local product fit and finish until you own it, Mills will fit right off the bat.
Best to call Leslie than to email her with your questions. Also, this is a good time of the year to order prior to the Spring rush. 1- 800-477-1535
posted 02-15-2002 11:27 AM ET (US)
Whaler 5, there is a lot of good discussion on this topic on older threads in this forum. Set the "show topics from" menu to 2 years, and you'll have more info than you can imagine on this subject. By the way, I own a Mills set (circa '83) and the quality is really there!
posted 02-15-2002 11:30 AM ET (US)
One benefit of using Mills canvas is that it is recognized as a brand among Whaler owners. You might get a great job from a local shop, but if you decide to sell the boat you will have to list the boat as having "Jones' canvas", which might not have as much appeal to a prospective buyer.
The downside with Mills is that you install it yourself. The upside will Mills is that you install it yourself. It depends on your point of view.
Fitting the canvas will take some time, and depending on your skills could affect the installation. Of course, your local canvas guy may not have Leonardo di Vinci doing the installation of his canvas. Installling it yourself could be a plus or a minus; it depends on the situation.
posted 02-18-2002 09:25 PM ET (US)
i talked to Leslie and she was helpful. I have a question for anyone out there though. I have a new 16 daunltess with a 3 ft. whip antenna on the console. How tight is the mills canvas? Will i be able to fit the CC cover over my console with the antenna?
Or should i take pictures and measurments and have mills make a custom opening for the cover?
posted 02-18-2002 09:54 PM ET (US)
If canvas is being considered at all, the radio or DGPS antennas should be rail or gunwale mounted, and never on the console.
I like the rail clamp-on SS models, with ratchet lay down.
Another benefit of owning Mills canvas, is that additional components can be added at a later date, just with a phone call, and they will fit perfectly since they are all part of a "package" design. Can't do this with the local stuff.
Why the current management is using Sea Ray's supplier instead of Mills is beyond me, except for the old "penny wise and pound foolish" addage. The boats would be much more attractive to a prospective customer, especially one looking for "all weather" functionality, if Mills was an option.
posted 02-19-2002 08:44 AM ET (US)
I think you made an error on the Mills Canvas e-mail. Should be:
posted 02-19-2002 09:37 AM ET (US)
Yup. Guilty. No excuses, just too many "v"s.
Red sky at night. ..
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