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mckoy posted 02-19-2002 08:39 PM ET (US)   Profile for mckoy   Send Email to mckoy  
First, I would like to thank you for such an informative website! I purchased my first boat, 1985 22' Outrage, several years ago and have thoroughly enjoyed the boat (both driving and working on it). The previous owner added a T-top that mounts to the floor of the boat at four locations with two attachments to the center console. I use the boat offshore and it has taken a beaten one more than one occasion. As a result of this pounding and age, the floor where the T-top is mounted has become weakened and the screws continue to pull out of the floor (rotting wood). I do not have a lot of information or knowledge of the boat and what I will be getting into if I remove the floor and try to repair or replace it. My questions:
-Should I just remove the floor and take it to a shop for repair or can this task be done with limited fiberglass knowledge?
-What should I use to replace floor under the fiberglass? Wood or is the other more durable material?
-While the floor is off what should I look for or repair on the gas tank (tank holds over a 110 gallons do not know the exact capacity)
Any information on this repair or general information on the boat would be greatly appreciated. I have many other questions but do not want to over burden everyone on my first post. THANKS
JohnAz posted 02-19-2002 09:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for JohnAz  Send Email to JohnAz     
On my whaler i cut a 4in x5in hole in the floor and dug out the appropriate amount of foam,,then EPOXIED a 4in x 4in x6 in oak block in the hole,,then replaced the p;iece of floor i cut out and finished with Marine Tex (tinted) the same color then put stainless steel screws in the oak,,holds great and the oak is encapuslated in Epoxy
tobes posted 02-20-2002 01:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for tobes  Send Email to tobes     
mckoy, take some time and read the past posts on this subject as there are a few ways to fix this.

As far as I know the floor is made up of marine ply with glass over it. no foam. Don't use oak or teak. Oak is too hard and they both don't like epoxy. I would use mahogany(sp)and go with west systems. see West sys. section in radio dept.

I have an 1984 22'Guardian, an outrage with more resin. I have just rebuilt the floor and replaced my fuel tank. So I have some practice with this area.

Glad you like the site, jimh has built quite a resource for whaler lovers. Thanks Jim.

David Ratusnik posted 02-20-2002 02:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Ratusnik  Send Email to David Ratusnik     
mckoy- I have a couple minor soft spots on my '86 22 OR yet the T top and leaning post are not yet impacted. My thoughts re the gas tank run similar to yours. When a more serious problem arises with the floor I intend on yanking the whole floor from under the console back to the piece that sits a couple feet forward of the transom (this piece is totally solid). It only makes sense to determine the age of the gas tank and replace at this time if it is original. You are facing an accident waiting to happen with the tank so why pay/work twice to remove the floor. Pulling the floor out from under the console/T top looks like a major activity. Thinking similar thoughts. David
DIVE 1 posted 02-20-2002 08:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for DIVE 1    
Are your T-top legs screwed to the permanent part of the floor or the removeable section? The T-top legs should be mounted on the floor seam with the screws going through the removeable floor and into the gas tank tub sides.
When you remove your floor, a decision can then be made as to repairs. The bottom of the floor will reveal how much work is needed to repair.
If you have the big gas tank-it holds 129 gallons.
mckoy posted 02-22-2002 07:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for mckoy  Send Email to mckoy     
I would like to THANK each of you for taking the time to provide me some insight into this repair. I plan to begin on removing the floor within the next few weeks to assess the amount of wood decay under the removable floor (where the top is screwed in) and inspect the condition of the gas tank. If the rot is isolated only round the console I will assume that I can just replace that section and avoid the entire floor replacement. However, if it not cost prohibited it may behoove me to replace the entire wooden section of the removable floor (proactive?). Again, thanks for the information and such a great website for BW owners. Take care- McKoy

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