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Stelario posted 03-11-2002 05:43 PM ET (US)   Profile for Stelario   Send Email to Stelario  
I just purchased a 1985 17' Montauk and I'm trying to get a ice chest seat to fit.

I measured the space from the center console forward to the inside of the teak cleats that hook the front base of the chest, and it's 14". The 72 qt marine Igloo mdl #6784 is ~14.75" (front to back) at it's base! It also looks a bit narrow (port to starboard).

Best I can tell neither the console or cleats were moved. Did Igloo change the dimensions of it's chest? Is their another mdl or make chest I shoud use? Or am I out of luck, and have to make this one fit?

lhg posted 03-11-2002 06:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
There are other posts on this subject, but I would recommend the Igloo 94 qt model. Dave's cushions are available. It can be made to fit. Face the hinge side forward, so it can go all the way back against the console front. It may have to be raised 3/4" to accomodate the slope in the floor at the sides.
lhg posted 03-11-2002 06:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Further to the above, your boat was furnished with the Igloo 86 qt cooler, now discontinued, and narrower at the base. You may have to widen the notch on the cooler cleats, or get new ones.
Tom W Clark posted 03-11-2002 06:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Stelario,

In 1985 Whaler used the 86 qt cooler as lhg points out. When Igloo changed their lid designs in 1989 or 1990 they made the lids "domed" and thus the capacities went up. The Igloo 94 qt cooler you buy now is essentially this old 86 qt cooler but with a taller lid.

Now lhg and I have argued about this before, and he is correct if he points out that the entire 94 qt cooler has been redesigned cosmetically, but I believe it is still the same length and width more or less.

It sounds as if you have the Montauk cooler cleats which are angled in to accommodate the shape of the floor as it approaches the bow. These cleats work by merely hooking the front of the cooler. The rear of the cooler is held in place by the console.

Because of this design you are free to move these cleats forward (or backward) as needed to accommodate whatever cooler you buy. But if you buy either the 94 qt or the 72 qt (which is the model Whaler sells now with their boats) it will probably fit.

I suggest you take your boat to the cooler store and just see which fits best.

By all means get a Whaler style upholstered cushion from Dave's or Whaler Tim. The off-the-shelf white Igloo cushions are rather lame.

lhg posted 03-11-2002 08:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
You're going to have to trust me again, Tom. I have both an old 86 and a new 72 (under the RPS) in 18 outrage, and the newer design, besides the taller lid, are wider at the bottom. The sides of the new coolers have less of a taper.
Rick Trimmer posted 03-11-2002 08:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rick Trimmer  Send Email to Rick Trimmer     
How do I find Dave or Whaler Jim to get there cushion? Thanks
gvisko posted 03-11-2002 08:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for gvisko  Send Email to gvisko     
my 87 montauk has a 94 qt cooler .
i moved the brackets foward it took
5 mins with a screw gun i then had
whaler tim make the cushion he did a real
nice job i have his adress but dont want to post it if you email me i will foward it
to you or just go back 2 yrs and you will
find him gvisko
daverdla posted 03-11-2002 09:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for daverdla  Send Email to daverdla     
Stelario
I put the 94qt igloo on my 1989 montauk last summer. I moved the cleats foward (the previous owner had cut the toes off the cleats for a odd sized cooler). Rather than drill more holes in the hull, drill new holes in the cleats and refasten with 3m sealer (4200?). Change the bungee cords while your at it.
Dave
15to17 posted 03-12-2002 10:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for 15to17  Send Email to 15to17     
I purchased my '86 Montauk last spring, and it had the original (but badly cracked) 86 quart Igloo cooler. For Father's Day my family gave me the new 94 quart version, and I simply took the old lid off the original cooler and placed it on the new cooler. The base of the new 94 quart version does fit rather snugly, but I did no modification to the cleats. It works like a charm. So, I agree with Tom that you drag you boat to the cooler store so that you will see that your problem is easily remedied.
Stelario posted 03-12-2002 12:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for Stelario  Send Email to Stelario     
Thanks to all for the advice, and history.
I figured it was a change in the Igloo dimensions.

The 72qt seems too small for two adult cabooses, I'll exchange it for the 94qt.

Daverdla, I had already given your advice to move the pair of teak ice chest supports foward, and to put new holes it the wood, not the hull, but was hesitant. I'm glad to hear you did it succesfully. I'd like to dowel the old holes, but I'll have to find some scrap teak or a good substitute.
Did you used the 3M as a bead of caulk under the base of the teak to seal it up?


daverdla posted 03-12-2002 01:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for daverdla  Send Email to daverdla     
I wouldn't caulk the cleats to the floor. That will just trap water under the cleats when the seal gives. Put the sealant in the holes in the deck to prevent water from getting into the hull around the screws. (BTW the advise I'm giving is from info I've gotten from this site. I'm also new to boat ownership.)

You could fill the old holes in the teak with sealant or leave them open an make sure you get oil or varnish in there to protect the wood.

Dave

Bigshot posted 03-13-2002 10:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Becareful with the bigger coolers. The bigger they get, the taller they get, the more those passengers block your vision.
Jim Bennett posted 03-13-2002 09:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jim Bennett  Send Email to Jim Bennett     
Am planning to replace old 86 qt Igloo with new 94 qt Igloo on my 73 OR 21 restoration. Also plan to use original mahogany/teak chocks which hold cooler in place. Problem is that handles on new cooler do not allow easy attachment with fixed large bungee cords as used with old cooler. Does any one know if can replace new handles with the old handles? Do the screw positions match?
daverdla posted 03-13-2002 09:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for daverdla  Send Email to daverdla     
Jim,
I just reused the u-shaped plastic pieces that the bungees attach to. The handles on the 94 quart stayed. I think the holes lined up. No big deal if they don't, its just plastic. I think the u-shaped plastic pieces are available new.
Dave
Jim Bennett posted 03-13-2002 09:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jim Bennett  Send Email to Jim Bennett     
Thanks Dave. I was wondering if you could do what you did i.e. just reuse the plastic piece the cord slips in. Haven't seen them new in any of Igloo's flyers or at West Marine.

Jim

Tom W Clark posted 03-14-2002 01:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
The "hook" that the bungee hooks onto is not an Igloo part, it is a Whaler part. Whaler developed it for use with their chocks. Should cost maybe $5-$10 for the pair. They just pop rivet onto the Igloo coolers.

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