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Stereo in a Montauk?
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posted 03-14-2002 03:53 PM ET (US)
I am considering installing a stereo in my '87 Montauk 17'. I am considering two options. One is a Jensen Marine CD, mounted under the console, attached to the top where it won't get wet, and then installing a wired remote in the dash. Changing CDs would be a pain, but not changing stations or tracks on the CD with the remote.
The second choice is the Standard Horizon CD or Cassette player mounted directly on the console. I still have holes where an old fishfinder was mounted which perfectly match the Standard mounting bracket, and there is an SS clam shell covering a wiring hole directly behind mount.
The box speakers for both would be mounted inside the console. I have a friend with this speaker set up and it is quite audible.
Does anyone have experience with any of these stereos? I'd also like to see if there are any more options I have overlooked (like maybe leaving it in the car!).
posted 03-14-2002 04:41 PM ET (US)
Stereo on a Montauk???? (cringe)
My only experience with stereos on the water is that they usually are too loud and carry too far. They have driven me away from too many otherwise peaceful places.
Please don't. Stereos are for disco-metalflake bassrockets, PWCs and Bayliners.
Nothing personal, mind you, that stuff just doesn't fit my image of a Montauk.
Red sky at night. . .
posted 03-14-2002 05:03 PM ET (US)
With all the wiring and lack of storage...I opted for one of those windup radios. It was like $40. Works on solar or windup and is loud enough while at rest. never have to worry about batteries being dead. Simple but functional...kinda like whalers.
posted 03-14-2002 05:19 PM ET (US)
Hmm... maybe Bigshot wants a wind up whaler? :-)
posted 03-14-2002 06:11 PM ET (US)
How else can I cruise babes? It'll be a perfect match for my open shirt, gold chains, tight shorts and slicked back hair. Point taken :-)
posted 03-14-2002 09:00 PM ET (US)
I have a 17 with a Standard Horizon CD flush
Sipping a glass of Port wine, puffing on a fine Cohiba cigar and listening to Frank Sinatra or Placido Domingo while watching a beautiful tropical sunset, priceless!!!!!!!!
posted 03-14-2002 09:37 PM ET (US)
In the beginning I often though of doing the same but ended up just bringing along a portable so I wouldn't have to go through the hassle of installing then having to have it repaired at some point.
After a couple times I just forgot to take it along and realized I never really used it that much anyhow.
I do a fair amount of fishing I find it distracting and even a little annoying for the most part. It is much more relaxing for me to not listen to anything at all other than occational crackling on the VHF.
I know this is a highly personal issue. Just my thoughts.
posted 03-14-2002 09:49 PM ET (US)
In the 30 years I have owned a boat I have never allowed a radio on board.They are irritating on a boat.
posted 03-14-2002 09:59 PM ET (US)
I too never brought along an am/fm/cd radio because it would be a distraction to fishing. On our 22 Grady, I finally installed one a few years back for those cruising times and kick back anchor fishing. Had it on maybe 3 times in two years!
For your Montauk, just get a waterproof yellow Sony AM/FM/CD for about $120. No wiring and much less corrosion and wiring problems. Just my .02.
posted 03-14-2002 11:38 PM ET (US)
I got a Sony $117 indash CD player on my 22 or and mounted it inside, where it does not get wet, a two-channel amp, and a couple of those 8" polyplaners from west marine. Everything is great except for the mounting - A pain to adjust the volume, swap cds... I'd do it all the same, but get one of those waterproof covers and mount it where I could get at it. I would not bother with a "marine" stereo, I am not aware of any significant differences, other than the white color, that justify the premium price.
posted 03-15-2002 12:17 AM ET (US)
I have a stereo with waterproof speakers on my 17 and use it all the time. I listen to music all the time. I put a kill switch for the stereo on the dash...that way if I want to talk to someone I can kill the stereo without affecting the settings. It is great when trolling or mooching or just hanging out !!
posted 03-15-2002 01:03 AM ET (US)
No Broadcast radios on my boats. No CD or Tape players either. One time we were listening to a book-on-tape on the drive up to the boat (525 miles) and we didn't quite finish the book. We brought a little battery operated tape player onboard to hear the end of the book.
Generally I don't want to hear music coming from other boats. One exception was an evening we were anchored in a remote cove in the North Channel and the sailboat next to us put on a concert. A young woman sang and played guitar quite well. She entertained her companion and the rest of the harbour for about an hour with classic folk tunes.
posted 03-15-2002 09:37 AM ET (US)
I use a Pioneer 40watt mossfett built-in chip amp. It provides good power without an additional amp. I use to Pioneer water-resistant speakers that have a wide output range. Intstalled the speakers in the console for good reverb and solid mid range.
posted 03-15-2002 10:16 AM ET (US)
Dammit, ratherwhalering...the open shirt/gold chain was gonna be my line. After all I'm the one from Joisey.
I put a cheap "Package" stereo in my beater 13 when I did the custom center console. I chose a AM/FM/cassete 1. because it was cheap 2. because I could dust off my cassetes (in storage since the CD went into the car 10 years ago).
The long and short of it is that I never use it on the water, out of courtesy to homeowners on the lake and other boaters. Seemed like a great idea but frankly when I get out on the water, I don't want to hear "that crap" either. The only time it gets used is on the trailer in the garage when I'm working on the boat or something else and I can "crank tunes, dude" without bothering anyone. Get a CHEAP portable and don't drill a whaler console.
posted 03-15-2002 10:28 AM ET (US)
you are better off buying a little portable stereo/cd player. Won't drain your battery, can be stowed during wash down/rain/rough ride.
posted 03-15-2002 11:40 AM ET (US)
I hate to split with the purist, but I have and enjoy my stereo. It's an indash mounted unit with one of those semi-domed lids that closes over it. Like anything else, I use it responsibly. Never too loud as to intrude on someone elses space. No, I don't use it often, but at times when my bride and I go for an early evening cruise with a bottle of wine and a little Jazz on the stereo.....makes for a wonderful way to relax.
posted 03-15-2002 12:24 PM ET (US)
Thanks for all the input folks. After a little reflection, I think that a stereo, at the right time, right place, and with a volume respectful of others, can be a benefit to a day on the whaler. I have a sailboat which has a mounted stereo, and like to have occasional music, especially when doing repairs! I really like the idea of a portable, and am going to go with that for now. If I end up using it alot, then I might go for a permanant installation. If not, I can still take it to the beach or something! Thanks everyone for your input...once again the forum has spoken with its voice of reason.
posted 03-15-2002 02:28 PM ET (US)
Mebbe up until now... Gitcha a lil' gaz-operated gen-set to strap onta ya dive-ladda platform. Plug in da Peavy and da Strat an jus WAIL BABY. Jimmy talkin' about classic folk tunes... Hows 'bout some o'dat classic VAN HALEN rockin out across da watta, Sport? You'll be jus a drownin' in chicks inside o' NO time! Rock ON!
posted 03-15-2002 02:30 PM ET (US)
Is that a special keyboard Hooter? I have a program that translates english to Jive....pretty funy.
posted 03-15-2002 03:08 PM ET (US)
I think Hooter's input is way beyond what any jive filter can do. A gen set on the step! I love it.
Ratherwhalering, just remember that sound carries over water, so use it responsibly. Voices carry better than speaker output, and both carry better than engine noise. Take it from a kayaker, I can hear what is being yelled over these background noises from a *long* way off, and your music will go a lot futher than you engine noise.
posted 03-15-2002 03:45 PM ET (US)
The only tunes that sound "right" on the water are Jimmy Buffet tunes for some reason.Cant get that song boat drinks outta my head.
posted 03-15-2002 05:52 PM ET (US)
C'mon, Biggie. Ah'da put ya mo' inda know, ya know? A Peavy's a AMPlifier. A Strat's a CASTer, got it? A six-string ax jus lak ol Jimmy Hendrix is a'playin up in Heaven fo all eternity(MAN, dat boy could PLAY! Bet he looks good in dat white robe an dem wings an all). Ole hoot ain't a using no KEYboard on da water. Break mah friggin' BACK jussa tryin' to push it offa da dock an inta da Whaler. Get REAL! An' about dat Jive Translater, hoot ain't no jive monkey, no way. Jus talkin' da straight an' petrified troot, well, mose aduh time. Juz writin da way ah'm a talkin'.
An' Stevie, you got da right idear. Seems moz aduh real classical musicians were named Jimmy. 'Member Jimmy Beethoven? Come ta tink about it, ah gotta gits me one'a dem cheezeburgers in paradize fo supper tonight. Yeah, you RIGHT!
posted 03-15-2002 06:39 PM ET (US)
Man.... I cringe at the thought of making a big cutout in my console for a stereo.
I have brought on a small boom box at times and listened to NPR or some mellow tunes while bottom fisning with someone that likes music. In Normal operations and fishing I don't use it at all. Besides it is cheaper to replace a $40 boom box every few years than to replace a $200 in dash with that great big ol hole it's stuck in plus the speaker holes ..... another cringe.........
Besides isn't that stuff standard equipment on go-fast boats, ski boats, and big cruisers?
posted 03-15-2002 08:33 PM ET (US)
Where I come from we fish w/Whalers, on the ocean cd's ???????
posted 03-15-2002 08:50 PM ET (US)
Get a Bose Acoustic Wave System with recharger system. Once you hear any kind of music from it you'll throw rocks at your indash trash. Who knows, you might set the right mood and get lucky! Regards, Jay P.S Get the protective cover so it won't get wet on your Montauk.
posted 03-16-2002 12:26 PM ET (US)
Can't hear it while running.
Don't need it when fishing.
What's the point?
posted 03-16-2002 04:55 PM ET (US)
I bought a "Shower Radio" with AM/FM/TV1/TV2. I can get tunes or a game if I want. Waterproof, digital clock and a mirror if I want to confirm how stupid my fishing hat looks!!
Not that expensive, keep the volume down and enjoy.
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