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gary fox posted 03-30-2002 02:14 PM ET (US)   Profile for gary fox   Send Email to gary fox  
I have a 1988 montauk for which i'm the third owner, and have just completed a full restoration including a repower with a suziki 70hp 4 stroke. The question is i replaced my chocks that held my cooler in place (which were teak i thought) with the newer star board from bw. The reason behind this was they were soft a little water loged. When i removed them i found termites had eaten there way through them which was the hard way to determine that they were not teak! A few weeks later i removed the new chocks and still found a few termites lingering around underneath the chocks. Is it possible for them to have gone into the hull and if so, is there any wood down in there for them to keep feasting on? If so is there a fix? TERMINIX. By the way this is a great site and i have learned alot form these forums. Keep up the good work!
THANKS, FOX
Drisney posted 03-30-2002 04:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for Drisney  Send Email to Drisney     
Yes Gary there is wood "down there" it is listed in the wood placement chart from BW.
Dave
TightPenny posted 03-30-2002 05:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for TightPenny  Send Email to TightPenny     
Wow, explain that one to your insurance company. My fiberglass boat was damagaged by termites.
GAwhale posted 03-30-2002 05:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for GAwhale  Send Email to GAwhale     
Hi Gary

Perhaps you had some insect damage, but I have a hard time believing they are termites.

I had some termite damage in my house a couple of years back. Here is what I learned.

Termites are blind little tiny white worms. They look like maggots. They live in a colony underground. They make a path between the colony and dead wood (my house).

There are usually fireant mounds nearby because they love to eat termites.

I wish you luck.

Drisney posted 03-30-2002 11:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for Drisney  Send Email to Drisney     
GAwhale...there are a whole bunch of different types of termites. They have differing habitat preferences also. Dave
gary fox posted 03-31-2002 05:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for gary fox  Send Email to gary fox     
Thanks for all the help. Wasn't sure if someone else had run into that same problem. These bugs are small, about the size you could put one on the end of a sharpened pencil. What has me puzzeled is that they were all in the soft wet part of the wood.
THANKS AGIAN GUYS
tabasco posted 03-31-2002 11:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for tabasco  Send Email to tabasco     
Gary-

If you would add your home state to your profile it might help some of us "bug men" to identify the creatures. Could be carpenter ants.

David Ratusnik posted 03-31-2002 08:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Ratusnik  Send Email to David Ratusnik     
What are you doing to rid the boat of the "termites"?? David
simonmeridew posted 03-31-2002 09:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for simonmeridew  Send Email to simonmeridew     
They weren't "earwigs" were they?
My wooden cleats were "punky" so I took them off and used one as a pattern to made a new one out of some scrap mahagony. When I first pulled the cleats up, there were a couple of earwigs under the wood, but they don't eat wood. Dry rot eats the wood.
just a thought
simonmeridew
gary fox posted 04-01-2002 04:25 AM ET (US)     Profile for gary fox  Send Email to gary fox     
Thanks tabasco, they very well could be carpenter ants, as far as what "earwigs" are, well I'll have to research those. As far as what i'm doing about them now, nothing yet. Thought I would give it a few more weeks and check it again. If their still around I'll get the bug man to come around and get his thoughts. As far as the wood on the inside of the hull, how is it protected? (is it embedded in the gelcoat,or just open to the foam core?I've never seen inside the hull of one.)Thanks agian guys a little more heplful info!
tabasco posted 04-01-2002 02:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for tabasco  Send Email to tabasco     
Suggestion ........save one of the dead bugs and bring it to an exterminator. They will tell you exactly what's doing the eating and give you a fix.

Thanks for putting in your home state.

where2 posted 04-01-2002 04:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for where2  Send Email to where2     
My dad had a '73 Penn-Yan 23' which happened to be attacked by "Subterranean Termites". Anyone familiar with these knows they need to build a mud tunnel from the ground up to their next wood meal. His first evidence of them in the boat was their mud tunnel running up a gelcoated surface in the cuddy cabin. He knocked a chunk of it loose, and the next day they'd rebuilt it. This was not the same structure built by mud-daubing wasps. The termite company we used on the house was surprised, but not amazed that termites would attack a fiberglass boat in their search for wood. They tented the boat beside the house, on the concrete driveway. Then came the challenge of repairing the damaged wood....

Call Terminix or your favorite competitor in the termite business. Park the boat on the trailer on a concrete slab somewhere and let them tent the boat. Little jobs are easy. You might get a discount if you take it to them...

triblet posted 04-01-2002 10:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
Gary, you get the award for the most unusual
problem we've ever had (and I suspect the
first original one in a while).

Earwig pictures at
http://www.ivyhall.district96.k12.il.us/4th/kkhp/1insects/earwig.html
The most notable feature is the two part
pincer on the tail. Yes, they can pinch
real good with that. They live most every
where. We had them in Tucson when I was a
kid, and we have them in Northern California.

Also, there are wet-wood termites. They've
been attacking the redwood fence posts at my
place.


Chuck

gary fox posted 04-02-2002 04:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for gary fox  Send Email to gary fox     
T hanks for all the help, really i mean it, the advise and the e-mail address form chuck was great. And thanks tabasco also for your advise! This has been a learning adventure, I'll have put some pics up on the board the first chance I get, soon!This is by far the best and friendest web site I've seen.But most of all its great talking to all the people who own the best boat in the world, "THE BOSTON WHALER".
THANKS AGIAN! G.FOX

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