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tomol posted 04-01-2002 08:39 PM ET (US)   Profile for tomol   Send Email to tomol  
My anchor is a pain. It's a little oversized -- I dive out of it and feel better swimming away with extra iron on the bottom -- and I haven't found a way or a location to secure it while I'm running. Suggestions?
jimp posted 04-01-2002 09:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimp  Send Email to jimp     
Tomol -

What type of boat? What do you have for storage?

I used to carry an 8-pound Danforth in one of my Montauk's coolers - but the stock was too long, so I cut a couple of inches off each end. Not the best solution, but the 8-pounder worked better than my 2.5 lb Danforth in deep water.

Depending on how comfortable you are, make your first dive down to the anchor rode and see how the anchor is resting on the bottom.

JimP

triblet posted 04-01-2002 10:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
I use a 7 or 8 pound Danforth on my Montauk.
It stows quite nicely in the bow locker. See
http://www.garlic.com/~triblet/whaler/
down near the bottom.

I agree with jimp, the first order of
business on the captain's dive is to check
the anchor. In sand, the Danforth just
digs in, provided it didn't get wrapped in
the chain on the way down. In rocks, you
gotta worry about it getting stuck. I'm
always the last one down, and my better dive
buddies will already have seen to it.


Chuck

Bigshot posted 04-02-2002 10:43 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Ditto with the 8lb in a Montauk. i set it on a cushion in the front locker with the plug out so the rope stays dry. i also keep a 2.5 in there as well which I usually use.
jimp posted 04-02-2002 10:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimp  Send Email to jimp     
tomol & Chuck -

I like Chuck's set up. I carried 300' of 1/2' line and 30'ft of chain, no room for the larger Danforth. But if you're not carrying a lot of heavy line, Chuck's is the way to go.

JimP

tomol posted 04-02-2002 11:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for tomol  Send Email to tomol     
Thanks for the suggestions. I see I should have been more thorough in my description. My boat is a '72 16 ft. whatever (I can never remember the names the the boats that presaged the Montauk).

I freedive exclusively, and since I frequently anchor in 25 fathoms or more and can't check it, I carry a 13 lb. Danforth and lots of extra chain.

Previously, I travelled with the anchor and chain in the splash well where it fit well, but two years ago I bought a heavy 4-stroke outboard and moved the anchor assembly to the bow to help compensate for the extra weight in the stern.

Currently, when in calm water the anchor rests on the deck sole forward of the gas tank, which is forward of the console. When I get into chop, it bounces around too much so I move it to the bow seat locker. Then the hatch doesn't fit.

I've thought about intalling a mounting bracket near the locker, but I try to avoid deck fittings that seem to be designed to make me stub my toe on them.

Nate

DaveH posted 04-02-2002 05:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for DaveH  Send Email to DaveH     
Back in the day, we ran a 13' sourpuss. The forward locker could not hold a danforth of any size. We used a plastic milk crate and bungie cord. The crate openings allowed for drainage and cleaning when we returned as well as portability. It held quite a bit of rode if I remember correctly.
aubv posted 04-03-2002 07:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for aubv  Send Email to aubv     
Nate,

I use a modern plastic soda crate. About 19" x 13" with handles on both ends.
I coil the rope and chain in the bottom and rest the anchor on top of the rope. The shank and the stock are the only things that stick out to the sides. Makes moving and stowing the anchor and rode easy. I store mine in CC and when needed, I can quickly move to bow and place on deck with out fear of chipping fiberglass. I keep a second crate with additional line and bring it only when traveling to water depths that might require additional line.

triblet posted 04-03-2002 10:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
If you have the bow rail, there are nice rail
backets for Danforth anchors.

I think that there's no difference between a
13 pound Danforth and a 7 pound in your
situation.


Chuck

Bigshot posted 04-04-2002 10:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Uh! there is a 6lb difference Chuck:)

Be weary of the anchor clips that hold the anchor at eye level. I know this is extreme but I was nearly whacked in the face by my anchor in my 15' while jumping yacht wakes. she broke lose and flew right passed me and out the back.

I like an anchor to be out of harms way.

Taylor posted 04-04-2002 02:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
Regarding anchor choices for my Montauk I wrote down the following on my shopping list after reading a previous thread and doing some research.

Fortress FX-7 $85 22"x19"
Guardian G-7 $50 22"x18"
chain =3/16
line=3/8
shackle=1/4

These lightweight alloy anchors, they both weight in at 4 lbs, and replace steel anchors in the 6-9 lb size. They break down for storage, but I think Dick said that it fits in his bow locker as is.

I've not used one this small, but on our cruiser we had a giant one of these as a secondary, and I can tell you, hauling it up out the lazerette and made you appreciate the alloy's light weight. Now I never had to pay for that big puppy, and it probably cost a pretty penny. But in the small sizes, hey, why not get a fancy lightweight anchor to match my fancy lightweight boat.

Note that I'm leaning toward the cheaper model, though.

The website for the manufactuer is http://www.fortressanchors.com

GAwhale posted 04-06-2002 02:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for GAwhale  Send Email to GAwhale     
My Montauk is one season old. I noticed some pretty good scrapes on the bottom from beaching. My four year old daughter loves to go to the beach. The hull grinds on the beach from wind and wake.

I bought a small plastic coated mushroom anchor to keep the Montauk slightly off the beach (lake). The boat drags the anchor all over.

My boat came with a HOOKER(not a prostitute) E10. It is a Danforth style anchor. I am assuming it weighs 10 pounds.

I originally thought it would be overkill for my application, but now I think it will be perfect. I had to make a dump trip today and with "anchor on the brain" noticed a pristine condition plastic milkcrate which someone was throwing away. I brought it home and my anchor fits perfectly.

I proudly showed my wife my terriffic find. She said she thinks it's a dumb idea. I tried to no avail to explain how the platic milkcrate will not chaff on the boat.

Conclusion: Women think differently than men.

triblet posted 04-06-2002 10:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
One of my dive buddies had one of the Hooker
really-really-cheap-Danforth-kinda-sorta
anchors on his inflatable. It dragged in
sand regularly. He replaced it with a real
Danforth (a little lighter, IIRC), and no
more dragging in sand problems.

Chuck

Eric posted 04-07-2002 10:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for Eric  Send Email to Eric     
I just bought a Guardian G7 with 300 feet of line and 8 feet of chain for my Nauset. It hasn't been wet yet, but I'll be going with the dairy crate idea, since the locker on the early hull is a lot smaller.
gunnelgrabber posted 04-08-2002 12:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for gunnelgrabber  Send Email to gunnelgrabber     
tomol,
up above you mentioned anchoring in 25 fathoms...and freediving. really ? you dive that depth?..that's a pretty serious tank dive depth in my neighborhood. some folks around here operate in the 50-70 'freediving range but they are few and far between.also just getting down to check your hook at that depth is a real event.did i miss something?thanks..lm
tomol posted 04-08-2002 03:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for tomol  Send Email to tomol     
Thanks for all the help. It looks like I'm going to give the milk crate idea a go. I'm jealous of any open deck space and hate to give it up, but it might be the best compromise.

Taylor, I've seen those Fortress anchors. The dismantleable feature is great. But I really like the extra weight of the standard Danforth, which I think is an issue with the smaller anchors. As a diver, I've watched lots of anchors over the years, and the really small, light anchors sometimes skip across the bottom even in firm mud.

As far as diving to 125 feet. I wish. When we anchor that deep, we're after pelagics that swim high in the water column. My limitations are the problem. I can't check my anchor at that depth, hence all the extra ground tackle.

Thanks again.

Nate

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