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whalebone posted 04-12-2002 10:14 PM ET (US)   Profile for whalebone   Send Email to whalebone  
I have a 73 13fter. that was stained with Minwax mahoganey stain. I have tried TEAK A cleaner to remove the stain but it will not come out. any suggestions? I would like to varnish the whole boat this spring. thanks
whaler222 posted 04-13-2002 12:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for whaler222  Send Email to whaler222     
to get the best results you will need to sand it down till you see nice new bare wood. then get some zspar captains varnish from west marine, make sure you last sanded the wood with 220 grit. mix your first two coats of varnish 50/50 with laquer thinner or reducer. sanding litely with 220 between coats. your third coat mix 75% varnish and 25% thinner.then you can use the varnish strait out of the can from here on out. i like to use the disposable foam brushes. remember to sand in between each coat and you can even use 180 between coats to speed up sanding. after about 8 coats you should be able to use your wood as a mirror! hope this helps, good luck!!
JBCornwell posted 04-13-2002 06:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
Howdy, Whalebone.

I think your wood is mahogany, not teak.

Red sky at night. . .
JB :)

whalebone posted 04-13-2002 10:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for whalebone  Send Email to whalebone     
Huh???? Did Whaler put teak or mahoganey on 13ft.whalers in 1973? The anchor storage hatch on the underside is a blonde color. I would like to restore wood to original color.
How do you leech the color out of the wood? Do I have to bleach it out or what?
JBCornwell posted 04-13-2002 10:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
Howdy, Whalebone.

My '73 13 Sport had mahogany. Check out the Whaler Catalog CDROM Project thread. I seem to recall that someone said that they actually used a variety of woods at one time, but still "mostly" mahogany.

I don't think teak was ever used on a boat smaller than the "17".

There are 13s around that have been customized with teak, oak, cypress and exotic woods. You might have come on one of those.

The only way I know to get the natural color of whatever wood you have is to remove the stained wood. On solid, that can be done with a planer/surfacer, but on ply I would stick to sanding.

Good luck.

Red sky at night. . .
JB :)

PMUCCIOLO posted 04-13-2002 11:43 AM ET (US)     Profile for PMUCCIOLO    
whalebone,

I'd suggest soliciting and opinion from Tom W Clark on this. From similar posts regarding this, his knowlege seems encyclopedic. Perhaps providing photos to the above responders to your inquiry would help.

Paul

simonmeridew posted 04-13-2002 12:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for simonmeridew  Send Email to simonmeridew     
Straight Chlorox will work well removing the stain pigments without harming the wood. Be sure to rinse it off well. It might take a couple of treatments.
simonmeridew
Tom W Clark posted 04-17-2002 12:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
whalebone,

First of all, the wood is most likely mahogany or Philippine mahogany (Lauan), not teak. It may well be some other type of wood too. Whaler used several types. Don't worry about it too much.

Second, I never recommend the chemical teak cleaners. They are nasty evil wood eating things that will provide VERY fast results but at the expense of eating the soft grain out of the wood and accelerating its decay.

In your situation you are where you are, so make the most of it. You can do two things:

You can try to remove the stain with oxalic acid and then sand it down and revarnish, or remove the stain mechanically by sanding it all down to bare, clean, level wood. The latter method may remove more material than the former and perhaps more than you like, but it will result in a superior and more durable finish into the future.

whalebone posted 04-18-2002 02:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalebone  Send Email to whalebone     
thanks guys weather has been great here in NJ so I am taking all the wood off and doing the whole boat! I am going to try the acid. It seems that the last couple of years I have been using teak oil on mahoganey. Doh!!!!!!. The stains are pretty deep I would say 1/8 of inch. It is a shame the guy who own it before used the dark stain the underside is the natural blonde mahoganey.

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