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smirkless posted 04-16-2002 09:07 PM ET (US)
Anyone know what brand of bow light hardware came on the '68 Sakonnet originally and if it is still available?
smirkless in Orlando
TampaTom posted 04-16-2002 09:17 PM ET (US)
Let me jump in on this and ask if anyone knows where to get the plastic lens that fits in the early bow lights?
JBCornwell posted 04-16-2002 09:21 PM ET (US)
There is one on ebay.
Red sky at night. . .
JB :)
Tom W Clark posted 04-17-2002 01:19 AM ET (US)
smirkless,
The bow light for your boat was (and is) made by Perko. It was custom made for Whaler. You can buy one new from any Whaler dealer but I suggest you contact Twin Cities Marine ( http://twincitiesmarine.com/ ) because they are much more reasonable on price and a pleasure top deal with as well.
Ask for Sue, the parts manager. She is VERY nice and helpful.
You may also do as JB suggests, and buy one used. They crop up here and there, including in the marketplace section of this forum.
TampaTom, I've read conflicting posts here on the FORUM about the availability of replacement lenses. Search through the old threads. I know we have talked about that before.
whalernut posted 04-18-2002 02:44 PM ET (US)
Also, the older ones were different that went on the pre-Smirk Hull if I am correct??? I just bought a used Bow Light/Chock used that came off a 1968 `16 Whaler, I believe the older ones fit the under rib if the older hull, and also I believe the light is shortwer on the older ones, they had to higher them due to regulations?? Jack.
Dick posted 04-18-2002 08:34 PM ET (US)
The early model lights were not made by Perko. Whatever the companies name was they went out of business and then Whaler contracted with Perko to build them.
I understand that with some carefull grinding the new lenses can be made to fit the old lights.
smirkless posted 04-19-2002 08:16 AM ET (US)
Thanks, I'm working those sources now.
smirkless posted 04-22-2002 12:51 PM ET (US)
Twincities has the bow light for about $66 but the whole kit with stantions, light, plate and bolts is about $220.
Smirk
whalernut posted 04-22-2002 06:03 PM ET (US)
If that $220 price is for a new Light/Chock, you will need to do some modifications to fit it on the older pre-smirk hull, this has been discussed in the past. Maybee someone will tell you again how the modification thing is done?? Jack.
gunnelgrabber posted 04-22-2002 06:14 PM ET (US)
the light/chock setup as whalernut describes i thought was an option...the standard is the the very small diameter dome deal? can parts for the small one be had at the source mentioned? thanks...lm
smirkless posted 04-22-2002 06:49 PM ET (US)
I guess I had been assuming that the full light/chock configuration was the ONLY original configuration. Does anyone know for sure?
Smirk
gunnelgrabber posted 04-22-2002 07:32 PM ET (US)
looking at a 64 options list in a bw catalog, quote" bow light,fits gunnel,won't cut toes." (std.one) next: "bow chock( and light base) .prevents chafe of dock or anchor lines". the second one requires the first one installed on it.
the way i read the table the chock was a $15 add on to all models except sakonnet; chock/and std. light came stock on it.
subject to review by more knowledgeable folks who reside here.good luck...lm
whalernut posted 04-22-2002 07:39 PM ET (US)
I know the Bow Rail and Bow/Chock light was an option on the Easport,Nausett, and Currituck. They came without the bow rail and chock/light configuration, they were options on certain models. My Currituck has the basic bow light, and i bought a used in very good condition Bow Chock/Light that I want to install, it came from a 1968 `16 footer. They were different then, the newer Combos will take some modifying to fit the under rib of the old hull properly(I think I heard shims or something??). By the way I love your log-in name of SMIRKLESS, that sais it all!!! I love the old sleds!!! Jack.
smirkless posted 04-23-2002 04:37 PM ET (US)
Thanks Jack. Smirkless is also my 16' Sakonett's name. My little 13 footer is just Smirk.
smirkless posted 04-23-2002 04:46 PM ET (US)
gunnelgrabber, thanks for the info. Looks like I'll have to buy the full blown kit (used or new). The bow light is kind of last on the renovation list but it doesn't hurt to start looking.
gunnelgrabber, that bw catalogue sounds interresting, is it available in any format or maybee I could get a copy of that page you referred to just for my records?
Smirkless in Orlando
gunnelgrabber posted 04-23-2002 06:14 PM ET (US)
i'll be glad to copy the page and send it to you, but it's a less than a perfect copy...i'm hoping tom clark's bw opus will be available soon...it'll be the last word in all this!..whatever suits you...lm
smirkless posted 05-01-2002 12:46 PM ET (US)
gunnelgrabber, I got the info you sent. Thanks, it is helpful and I am enjoying the extra historical documentation for my whaler file.
Smirkless in Orlando.

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Author	Topic: Need bow light - '68 16'
smirkless	posted 04-16-2002 09:07 PM ET (US) Anyone know what brand of bow light hardware came on the '68 Sakonnet originally and if it is still available? smirkless in Orlando
TampaTom	posted 04-16-2002 09:17 PM ET (US) Let me jump in on this and ask if anyone knows where to get the plastic lens that fits in the early bow lights?
JBCornwell	posted 04-16-2002 09:21 PM ET (US) There is one on ebay. Red sky at night. . . JB :)
Tom W Clark	posted 04-17-2002 01:19 AM ET (US) smirkless, The bow light for your boat was (and is) made by Perko. It was custom made for Whaler. You can buy one new from any Whaler dealer but I suggest you contact Twin Cities Marine ( http://twincitiesmarine.com/ ) because they are much more reasonable on price and a pleasure top deal with as well. Ask for Sue, the parts manager. She is VERY nice and helpful. You may also do as JB suggests, and buy one used. They crop up here and there, including in the marketplace section of this forum. TampaTom, I've read conflicting posts here on the FORUM about the availability of replacement lenses. Search through the old threads. I know we have talked about that before.
whalernut	posted 04-18-2002 02:44 PM ET (US) Also, the older ones were different that went on the pre-Smirk Hull if I am correct??? I just bought a used Bow Light/Chock used that came off a 1968 `16 Whaler, I believe the older ones fit the under rib if the older hull, and also I believe the light is shortwer on the older ones, they had to higher them due to regulations?? Jack.
Dick	posted 04-18-2002 08:34 PM ET (US) The early model lights were not made by Perko. Whatever the companies name was they went out of business and then Whaler contracted with Perko to build them. I understand that with some carefull grinding the new lenses can be made to fit the old lights.
smirkless	posted 04-19-2002 08:16 AM ET (US) Thanks, I'm working those sources now.
smirkless	posted 04-22-2002 12:51 PM ET (US) Twincities has the bow light for about $66 but the whole kit with stantions, light, plate and bolts is about $220. Smirk
whalernut	posted 04-22-2002 06:03 PM ET (US) If that $220 price is for a new Light/Chock, you will need to do some modifications to fit it on the older pre-smirk hull, this has been discussed in the past. Maybee someone will tell you again how the modification thing is done?? Jack.
gunnelgrabber	posted 04-22-2002 06:14 PM ET (US) the light/chock setup as whalernut describes i thought was an option...the standard is the the very small diameter dome deal? can parts for the small one be had at the source mentioned? thanks...lm
smirkless	posted 04-22-2002 06:49 PM ET (US) I guess I had been assuming that the full light/chock configuration was the ONLY original configuration. Does anyone know for sure? Smirk
gunnelgrabber	posted 04-22-2002 07:32 PM ET (US) looking at a 64 options list in a bw catalog, quote" bow light,fits gunnel,won't cut toes." (std.one) next: "bow chock( and light base) .prevents chafe of dock or anchor lines". the second one requires the first one installed on it. the way i read the table the chock was a $15 add on to all models except sakonnet; chock/and std. light came stock on it. subject to review by more knowledgeable folks who reside here.good luck...lm
whalernut	posted 04-22-2002 07:39 PM ET (US) I know the Bow Rail and Bow/Chock light was an option on the Easport,Nausett, and Currituck. They came without the bow rail and chock/light configuration, they were options on certain models. My Currituck has the basic bow light, and i bought a used in very good condition Bow Chock/Light that I want to install, it came from a 1968 `16 footer. They were different then, the newer Combos will take some modifying to fit the under rib of the old hull properly(I think I heard shims or something??). By the way I love your log-in name of SMIRKLESS, that sais it all!!! I love the old sleds!!! Jack.
smirkless	posted 04-23-2002 04:37 PM ET (US) Thanks Jack. Smirkless is also my 16' Sakonett's name. My little 13 footer is just Smirk.
smirkless	posted 04-23-2002 04:46 PM ET (US) gunnelgrabber, thanks for the info. Looks like I'll have to buy the full blown kit (used or new). The bow light is kind of last on the renovation list but it doesn't hurt to start looking. gunnelgrabber, that bw catalogue sounds interresting, is it available in any format or maybee I could get a copy of that page you referred to just for my records? Smirkless in Orlando
gunnelgrabber	posted 04-23-2002 06:14 PM ET (US) i'll be glad to copy the page and send it to you, but it's a less than a perfect copy...i'm hoping tom clark's bw opus will be available soon...it'll be the last word in all this!..whatever suits you...lm
smirkless	posted 05-01-2002 12:46 PM ET (US) gunnelgrabber, I got the info you sent. Thanks, it is helpful and I am enjoying the extra historical documentation for my whaler file. Smirkless in Orlando.