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posted 05-06-2002 08:46 AM ET (US)
Does anyone know where I can get replacement decals for a Johnson outboard? The engine is a 90hp VRO (92 or 93) and the decals are in very rough shape. I wanted to respray the cowling and then put on new decals. Is the engine white available in a spray can or only as touch up paint?
posted 05-06-2002 10:16 AM ET (US)
Tempo Johnson white is available in spray. $6? Try a local decal shop.....not cheap.
posted 05-06-2002 10:27 AM ET (US)
Good luck with the decals. I tried to find them for a '85 Evinrude I use to have. From what I recall, they told me they quit making them after 10 years.
posted 05-06-2002 09:32 PM ET (US)
Kolbert- OMC/Bomb (now I guess) makes "correct" Johnson paint for your engine. Go to a mechanic who services only this brand. He should have it (mine does). Lay down a primer first. David
posted 05-06-2002 11:30 PM ET (US)
Through Bombardier (Johnson) the decal set is still available. The part number is 436303 and the list price is $73.64.
posted 05-09-2002 02:24 PM ET (US)
Just this morning I ordered two sets of Evinrude decals for my 1989 twin 120s. The sets were $102 each (haven't told my wife yet), so I know they are available. You can order them from the Outboard Shop in Charleston SC at (843) 747-9614.
Hope this helps,
posted 05-10-2002 05:25 PM ET (US)
Unless your heart is set on usine OEM decals, just go to a local boat lettering shop and have them make up a new set. I just finished painting my Yamahas and had a local boat lettering guy make replacement stickers. They were less than half the price that Yamaha wanted, and you can't tell the difference.
posted 05-10-2002 05:33 PM ET (US)
I replaced my decals on my '85 -40hp Johnson, and they turned out great. Now, all who see, want me to do thiers! Anyway, it is time consuming more than materials, and whoever you have do this, you are paying for not only the materials, but thier talent and time to reproduce decals exactly as were origonally manufactured.
posted 05-13-2002 08:25 AM ET (US)
janis....is there anymore of those decals maybe leftover from your redoing of yours that you may want to sell
posted 11-24-2008 07:21 PM ET (US)
Sorry to drag up an ANCIENT discussion, but I figured it was better than starting a new one.
Has ANYONE come up with a reliable source for decal sets for OMC motors that have been discontinued? I've got a 1984 (maybe 85) Johnson 150 that I need to repaint and re-decal. I've been searching google like crazy and no one seems to have them. eBay is useless, as all they seem to have is a few sets that are for engines that are much newer and much older. The 80's era seems to be largely ignored.
posted 11-25-2008 12:50 AM ET (US)
posted 11-25-2008 01:10 AM ET (US)
Peter - Try Tom's Outboard in Olympia. 360-754-3882.
Excellent customer service and one of the best sources in the nation for NOS OMC parts.
posted 11-25-2008 11:18 AM ET (US)
1984 and 1985 used the same decals, only difference was 1984 were painted grey below the cowl and 85's were all white. The decals are so simple that you can go to any automotive store and get 3 pinstripes and make your own and probably why nobody makes them. What I would do is search Johnson decals on E-Bay but mainly look at the buy it now ads and e-mail a few of them with a pic and see if they have something for you or can make it. They show a wonderfull repro of 1981 and 1982 decals.
posted 11-26-2008 10:09 PM ET (US)
there is a place on ebay called nanas decals that has what u need just type in johnson outboard decals on the search and wala.
posted 11-28-2008 02:48 PM ET (US)
I've looked at the ebay auctions weekly over the last year, and none of them have the right decals that fit my engine.
I don't just need the pin stripes. I need the whole thing; the stripes, the "Johnson" lettering, the Seahorse logo, and the front and rear plaques that say "150" and "V6). Those are perhaps the most important, and, unfortunately, the most difficult to recreate. Mine are faded and cracked and look horrible. Someone actually asked me once why I had a piece of cardboard glued to my engine.
posted 11-28-2008 02:52 PM ET (US)
Heh, no sooner do I say this, than I find an auction that has exactly what I need.
posted 11-29-2008 07:54 PM ET (US)
This is really strange but I have been on ebay trying to find the decals for a 1985 Johnson V4 90 and they have every motor size and decade except the mid-80's.
PGLEIN, where did you find yours? Can you send me contact info for the seller?
I was considering a re-power but then gas dropped and I am trying to be more cautious with money. Soooo-
I pulled my motor off the boat today and am having it blasted, primed and painted. I am replacing the lower seals, water pump, etc. The steering control assembly ($598 from BRP) was found locally for $20 in MINT condition. I checked the compression- 122, 118, 120 and 125. Not bad at all. The work is being done by an ex for next to nothing. The transom was solid, in great condition, no evidence of water intrusion.
All new seals are going into the TnT unit. The electric motor for the TnT has exterior rust but he said it can be cleaned, primed and painted.
While the motor is off, the interior and exterior are being detailed by yours truly, all cables and rigging are being re-organized, a new bilge pump is going in and I will fabricate the missing teak cover to the bilge area from scrap a neighbor has.
All teak was re-done this year with 7 coats of teak oil. The rails were recently cleaned and polished. I am trying to decide about getting the two black plates on the console repainted or new decals or both.
It will be sanded and the bottom paint re-applied. I don't know why someone bottom painted it, it is very solid, no evidence of repairs. It is easier for me to repaint than soda blast down. I am the third owner.
In short, I am finally doing the restoration I intended when I got the Montauk. I will post before and after photos once completed.
Finally, I need guidance on replacement of my antennae. I pulled a bonehead maneuver and backed under my gate with it up and snapped the housing. It is an 8 foot model, with a stainless steel base/swivel. It is mounted on the starboard stern end of the boat, below the gunwhale.
posted 11-30-2008 11:43 AM ET (US)
At least on my '97ish Montauk, it takes a 20' cable to get
from the stern to the radio. The cheaper Shakespeare antennas
have a 15' cable. The better Shake Galaxy line has a 20'
cable, and better grade coax.
If you fish, a console-mounted antenna won't get in the way
At 20 miles I'd want all the antenna I could get.
posted 12-01-2008 12:54 PM ET (US)
Well, it turns out they didn't have quite what I needed. They did not have the decals for my 1985 150. Nor did they have them for the 1989, which I was interested in changing them over to. However, they DID have them for the V4 models (like your 90) in the 1989 variety. Those decals would fit your engine, if you don't mind the newere look. I prefer it slightly. The vendor was Nana's Decals on eBay. Just do a search for "Johnson V4 decal" and it should come up. It's up for auction on a Buy It Now as we speak.
I did contact them and they indicated they didn't have them for the 1985 at this time.
Meanwhile, I was cleaning up my engine to prepare for paint and I was so pleased with how it was looking that I've decided it doesn't need a complete respray, just some touch-up, and only some of the decals need replacement. Instead, I've been using some degreaser, followed by rubbing compound, and then a coat of automotive wax.
I don't think I'll be able to find replacements for the appliques on the front and back, so I may just have to remove them.
Part of the reason my engine looks so bad is that there is a tremendous amount of oil that seems to seep out of the powerhead from just about every possible point, and then drains down on the outside of the engine. I noticed unusually high consumption of the oil from the VRO tank, so I replaced the VRO/fuel pump, which I'm hoping will correct both problems.
posted 12-01-2008 01:01 PM ET (US)
My antenna is mounted on the console, near the base. It does not interefere with the electronics, and greatly simplifies installation. However, it gets in the way when my canvas is up. If yours is already mounted aft, I would probably leave it, and just utilize your existing wiring and mount. Stick with the 8' antenna. 4' is not enough, even if you're only a few miles from shore, especially since you say yours is mounted below the gunnel, which would interfere with it's transmission. The shortes antennas are intended to be mounted on top of larger boats where the necessary height is attained by virtue of the mounting location.
posted 12-01-2008 08:17 PM ET (US)
I think I posted this earlier on a different thread, but I had a set of 1988 Johnson 150 decals made by a graphics guy in SLC.
He does awesome quality work, and uses premium materials. I brought him the engine cowling and he took measurements and looked at the original decals to get all the colors right. When I got it back it was perfect, literally better than new, as the factory decals had some very small bubbles in them. His however, had no bubbles and he compensated for the compound curve of the engine cowling.
Not cheap, but as the saying goes: "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the satisfaction of low price".
I needed the rear applique for a '88 Johnson 70 and Dave Lockeman (in Detroit) was able to find a NOS one. Again, not cheap, but to me, it was worth it.
posted 12-03-2008 10:08 PM ET (US)
PGLEIN- I have searched on Johnson decals as you suggested. Nada.
Wasatch- can you post or email contact info for your vendor.
I have also emailed Janis @ Magic Brush.
posted 12-04-2008 08:53 PM ET (US)
The fellow who I speak so highly of is Sam Mathis, the owner of Graphic Evolution.
His phone number is (801) 747-0048.
Sam's email is firstname.lastname@example.org.
Sam's done several different items for me, and they have all turned out beautifully.
posted 12-05-2008 11:05 AM ET (US)
The supplier on eBay is Nana's decals. They don't always have all their items listed, but you can contact them directly and ask about a specific product. Right now I think they're taking a break for the holidays. When I emailed them a couple weeks ago, they responded that they were out of town for a while, but would help me out when they returned.
posted 12-12-2008 10:15 AM ET (US)
Janis @ Magic Brush said she would do the decals.
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