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jxs226 posted 05-16-2002 07:29 PM ET (US)   Profile for jxs226   Send Email to jxs226  
Folks -

My brother and I have nearly finished a two year upgrade/restoration of a '64 Sakonnet. The only remaining issue is the wiring of the running lights.

Where do the leads from the lights emerge out of the hull in which they are embedded?

I've had both the bow and stern lights apart and everything is in order there, and the wires definitely disappear into the hull beneath them. Where do they typically poke their heads out?

Thanks.

Justin

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Tom W Clark posted 05-16-2002 09:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Justin,

The wires emerged in the port stern area about half way between he splash well and the gunwale. They were foamed into the hull. If you don't see them they have been cut off and you are out of luck.

The fact of the matter is that even if they were still there they would probably be corroded out after 36 years and need replacing.

There is no way to run new wires through the hull, however you can do as Whaler has done with all their boats since 1972 and install the three piece Barbour rub rail.

Wiring can be run under the rub rail insert to any point along the gunwale such as the bow.

If you have the original one piece white rub rail and do not want to retrofit the three piece rub rail then your only option is to run the wire under the "finger grip" of the gunwale and attach the wire to the hull with little eye straps and screws. This is a less that satisfactory option in my opinion but it can be done.

jxs226 posted 05-17-2002 10:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for jxs226  Send Email to jxs226     
Tom, thank you for your help.

So am I correct then that the wires for *both* the bow and stern light emerge from the same little hole between the splash well and the gunnel?

I have the stern light hooked up there, but don't see a second pair of wires in that hole. The wires are indeed old and of a very light gague, I'd guess around 22 ga? They should suffice for now.

My original white rub rail is in fine condition and I'm partial to it, so I've been hoping to just find the wires and hook them up somehow. Maybe I'm dreaming...

I'm really wondering how to connect these lights to a power source, thus I'm asking where the terminals emerge from the hull, hoping to find wires to connect to the fuse panel and light switch.

Thanks again.

Justin

Tom W Clark posted 05-17-2002 11:04 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Justin,

No, that's not right. The wires for the stern light are never in the hull. Only the wires for the bow light are molded into the hull.

There are three wires. Whaler did this knowing that some day you might need a spare. The trouble is the extra wire is just as old and subject to the same conditions as the others and thus usually fails right along with the ones being used.

The wires in the hull are 18 ga, though they may have lost a few strands and look like 22 ga.

The original set up has a set of wires coming from the console (and the light switch) down the tunnel to the terminal block that is screwed over the hole where the bow light wires emerge from the hull. Connections for the bow and stern light are made at this small terminal block.

The wire to the stern light is essentially a pigtail which just runs out in the open the short distance to the base of the stern light.

jxs226 posted 05-17-2002 03:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for jxs226  Send Email to jxs226     
Tom, again, thank you very much for your descriptive and very helpful comments. I did a big slap to my forehead and exclaimed "Duh!" when I read your last post. You're dead right in all cases and I was a bit confused. The three wires are indeed there in the hole, although one of them is totally shot. It looks like an old piece of pasta! I really hope I can get these lights fired up safely with this old arrangement, at least for a while before putting on the updated rubrail. Again, you've been very helpful and my brother and I really appreciate it!

Justin

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