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pamlico posted 05-17-2002 09:29 PM ET (US)   Profile for pamlico   Send Email to pamlico  
On the bow of my 22'foot gaurdian I have two small spots that continue to bleed.No matter if I expoxy, sand and re-gel-cote, within a couple of weeks there bleeding again. What can I do to solve this problem.
DIVE 1 posted 05-17-2002 10:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for DIVE 1    
Pamlico,
If the hull is bleeding you need to open the holes and set the boat out in the sun. Let it bleed out. Do not allow any rain water to get into the hull.
Jim
pamlico posted 05-18-2002 07:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for pamlico  Send Email to pamlico     
Thank you DIVE 1, I will give it a try this week.
JMG posted 05-28-2002 01:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMG  Send Email to JMG     
I believe I have the same situation in an area of my montauk. Can you describe what the "blood" looks like for me to verify it is the same problem and alos what is the cause. thanks for any help.
Chap posted 05-29-2002 11:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chap  Send Email to Chap     
Hello,
Sounds like blisters. One of the articles has a picture of one "bleeding."

www.yachtsurvey.com/blisters.htm

Thanks
Chap

JMG posted 05-29-2002 04:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMG  Send Email to JMG     
Thanks for the link, the picture shows the same "bleeding" problem that I have. I am however surprised that I have a blistering problem on the interior. Oh well now it's time to figure out how to correct it.

Thanks Again

John O posted 05-29-2002 11:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for John O    
I too have noticed a small spot about 2.5" long by 1/2" wide that drips a small amount of water that is green. The previous owner just bottom painted the hull blue 3 weeks ago and boat has been with me for 2 weeks. i sanded paint and revealed some eggshell ,smooth like cracks. I will try to repair with Marine tex. I read the article on blisters and noted that my Newtauk weeps in various conditions. 1988 boat with open screw hole that I am repairing.
BillVT posted 06-10-2002 04:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for BillVT  Send Email to BillVT     
Now for a little trivia that bears on this problem of water seeping out of cracks, from my days as a Whaler hull service tech.

The redness of the "bleeding" comes from the red-dyed tracer strands that are used in the chopped glass during layup. Whaler was probably the first builder to build boats with a chopper gun layup (chopped strand and resin shot out of a hand-held gun), which was always regarded as poor construction versus hand layup. Areas of more stress or possible impact(keel, chine transom, etc. ) got hand-layup on top, too.

To make it easier on the guys running the chopper guns, the chopped strand that comes in a large continuous roll, had a red strand dyed into in, maybe every so often. One could guage the thickiness of the layup by the density of the red fibers.

Apparently this red dye was water-soluble, and so shows up as "red water" seeping out of cracks and holes. Of course this indicates some water has seeped in by the gelcoat to the choopped glass layer. This is probably a good way to tell that this is going on. Stains in the bottom paint also show leaking cracks.

My experience with many hulls showed that this was not something to get too alarmed about, but to keep an eye on it. Water in a hull is never good, but many hulls seem to have several to numerous "weeps" that don't seem to get worse. I never made a good scientific study here, however. When you get good at exterior repairs, it is very tempting to grind away at that seeping place while you have the grinder in your hand, soak everything in acetone and let it dry out real good, then fix with epoxy resins. The company always used to say that a little wet glass could be dried, but wet foam would not dry and should be removed.

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