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BOB KEMMLER JR posted 06-13-2002 11:25 AM ET (US)   Profile for BOB KEMMLER JR  
Ive got most of the removal stage of my conversion done,and i want to add a livewell to my rage,preferably under the seat.However the size i need is kind of odd,id like to make one if possible.Any suggestions to materials,styles,mounting,and pumps?I like to use small snapper blues and spot for bait in the summer.Id like to have a round one if possible with a lid on it to keep splash to a minimum.Ive checked with bass pro and some of the other places but no size really fits.HELP
bsmotril posted 06-13-2002 12:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for bsmotril  Send Email to bsmotril     
Here's a site with some pics of different types of pumps and intakes:
http://www.godco.com/index.html?target=Bait_Well_Pumps_and_SystemsBait_Well_Pumps_zg_Conversion_Kits.html

Look at the 10 gallon 15" high tank on this page, would it fit under your seat?

http://www.flfish.com/fl/Catalog/KeepAlive/livewells.htm

BillS

bsmotril posted 06-13-2002 12:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for bsmotril  Send Email to bsmotril     
If you can't find one that fits, and need to make your own, you might try laying one up using fiberglass cloth and resin. Use Foam to make a "plug" mold. You can easily carve the plug to fit under your seat, and round off the side to bottom joint with a radiused corner. Squared corners are bad for live bait, they get stuck and bloody their noses. You would have to use something to smooth and seal the plug after carving, perhaps Bondo automotive putty would work for that. And of course you would then need to coat it with a mold release agent before laminating. Not sure what to use there, but someone else might know. For the lid, you might be able to either laminate a piece of wood with glass, or use one of the premade plastic hatches from Tempress or something similar.
BillS
reelescape1 posted 06-13-2002 10:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for reelescape1  Send Email to reelescape1     
I have 2 homemade ones...same configuration but different sizes. Both have 3/4" inlets almost at the top, round plastic tanks, 1 1/2" outlets with corrugated drain piping that hangs over the transom. Both have clear plexiglass lids, about 3/4 of a circle, ss piano style hinges. The inlet and clear lid are the tricks. The inlet goes 90 degrees into pvc pipe that has 6-8 (depending on the length) progressively larger holes drilled from top to bottom. From about 3/16" to 1/2" at the bottom. Mine are fed from a 800 gph pump. Ideally you want a 4-6 minute "turnover rate" (depending on water temp.) meaning.....you adjust the ball valve on the feed line to fill the tank in that time from empty. My large tank...40+ gallons has 2 1-1/2" drains to handle the water flow. If I can get my hands on a digital camera I'll get some pics. This scenario keeps menhaden alive in 80+ water almost all day.
BOB KEMMLER JR posted 06-14-2002 08:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for BOB KEMMLER JR    
This is probably a stupid question,but here it go's.How do you get the old water out of the livewell,if the livewell is mounted lower than the output hose?Do you have to have 2 pumps?One in the tank and one for filling?I would really like to see those pics of your setup reelscape1.I also checked out that website bsmotril and they have a 10 gallon round that MIGHT work,im going to do some more measuring this weekend when i go down to my dads to pull the gearbox out.
reelescape1 posted 06-14-2002 11:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for reelescape1  Send Email to reelescape1     
The water overflows out of the discharge...the level rises to it and it flows out. Mine sit far aft...not under a leaning post. I'll try to get some pics. Go to either Boaters World web site or Aquaworld...they should have some good shots of the same basic design.
reelescape1 posted 06-14-2002 11:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for reelescape1  Send Email to reelescape1     
Try this...http://www.aquaworld-products.com/dept.asp?dept=4
reelescape1 posted 06-14-2002 11:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for reelescape1  Send Email to reelescape1     
I guess I wrote too soon......check out the Transom Mod. on the 25 OR....thats exactly what I have built!!! Good luck!!
BOB KEMMLER JR posted 06-14-2002 12:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for BOB KEMMLER JR    
I dont think that setup is for me,i need one much like the livewells on a bass boat(ranger,skeeter,etc)mine will be mounted under the seat in my rage.It looks like ill have to mount a pump in the livewell to pump the old water out,because my drain hose will be mounted higher than livewell.Maybe i should just use lures?? :)
PMUCCIOLO posted 06-14-2002 06:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for PMUCCIOLO  Send Email to PMUCCIOLO     
BOB KEMMLER JR,

Have you decided on the radar arch or the full tuna tower?

Paul

bsmotril posted 06-14-2002 08:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for bsmotril  Send Email to bsmotril     
If you install a vane pump like a Groco, you can run it in forward or reverse. My old Sea-ray Laguna had such an arrangement with an intermittent adjustable timer as well. You toggle the pump in forward to fill the well. Then switch in the timer to run the pump a few seconds every five minutes or so. There was a standpipe overflow pipe to drain away the excell. To empty, switch the pump into reverse.
BillS
BOB KEMMLER JR posted 06-17-2002 10:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for BOB KEMMLER JR    
50MM machine guns are starting to sound good,does that answer your question?
BOB KEMMLER JR posted 06-17-2002 10:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for BOB KEMMLER JR    
bsmotril thanks for your help,its nice to see some people actually use there posts to respond to the question at hand and not take potshots at people.I think the 10 gallon round from godco will fill my needs perfectly.Thanks again for the tip.
Livewell Man posted 06-23-2009 11:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Livewell Man  Send Email to Livewell Man     
[Revived thread which had been dormant for seven years in order to promote his own product.]
Tom W Clark posted 06-24-2009 01:04 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Livewell Man,

You're about seven years too late to the party, but feel free to post your own advertisement in the Marketplace section.

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