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Digs1622 posted 06-24-2002 10:45 PM ET (US)   Profile for Digs1622   Send Email to Digs1622  
Im not sure what anybody calls it...but Im just looking to buy a ladder to put off my 91 13'ss so i can get in and out from swimmin. Me and my bud this weekend decided to take a dip in the middle of the lake and barely made it back into the boat, what a emarassment that would have been when the local sheriffs showed up...."whata ya boys doin", "ahhh were idiots and cant get back into our boat sir"....Anyway:), Im lookin for prices and where, once I have one, hould it be placed(side, aft, bow)?

Sorry for a silly question, but ill be damned if i jump off my boat again, unless its anchored at shore.

Digs

SeaHag posted 06-24-2002 10:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for SeaHag  Send Email to SeaHag     
I'll second that motion. Im thinking about trim tabs on my 20' OR and doing so would eliminate entry via stern. It would not be pretty seeing me try to board the side w/out a ladder.

I'm curious if the suggested ladder that you get for your 13' would work on my 20'.

David Ratusnik posted 06-25-2002 08:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for David Ratusnik  Send Email to David Ratusnik     
LOL You guys are a riot.
David Ratusnik posted 06-25-2002 09:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for David Ratusnik  Send Email to David Ratusnik     
Seahag- Trim tabs go beneath a rear entry platform with one or two step ladder. No conflict- friend has one on his 22' OR with tabs. I use a four step side ladder.

I have no idea how to handle entry into the 13'. However, please post pictures or your next swimming/boating experience. Still LOL. David

Wreckdiver posted 06-25-2002 09:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for Wreckdiver  Send Email to Wreckdiver     
You need to make a rope ladder. Use four six to eight foot lengths of marine line (old 3/8 sailboat running rigging works fine). Get two or three 4 x 14 x1 boards, teak if you want to be fancy. Drill four holes along the outside corner of each board. Pass the line through and secure using a sailors figure 8 knot. Tie the four lines together at the top, trim and attach to a cleat or any other handy place on the side of the boat. The steps will float so you will have to swim up and pull them down, but I have found this to be no problem. I would think two steps would work for a 13.
The rope ladder takes up no space on the boat, and will not drop to the bottom if it gets loose from the boat. By experimenting you can get the steps just right if you use the figure 8 knots as I have specified above, because they will not jam.
Bob
Wreckdiver posted 06-25-2002 09:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for Wreckdiver  Send Email to Wreckdiver     
I forgot to mention: round the corners of the steps to keep sharp edges off wet skin.
Bob
David Ratusnik posted 06-25-2002 01:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Ratusnik  Send Email to David Ratusnik     
Diggs- I think I have a solution. Just noted in most recent SeaDoo catalog the following--EZ ON JET STEP FLEXIBLE LADDER. "No installation tools needed- 4 step ladder stores under seat- strong 1" web strap- 400 lb capacity- available in purple,black, teal and blue. Price $19.99. Number next to pic 35048. Probably available at your nearest SeaDoo dealership. Good luck David
ShrimpBurrito posted 06-25-2002 01:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for ShrimpBurrito  Send Email to ShrimpBurrito     
I'm LOL cuz I've been there! I've stepped on the hydrofoil of my 15' SS before, and then throw my other foot in the motor well. It's definitely not graceful, but it's fast and gets the job done.

With the rope ladder, doesn't the ladder fold right under the boat (with your feet) as soon as you start climbing?

David Ratusnik posted 06-25-2002 02:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Ratusnik  Send Email to David Ratusnik     
Shrimp- I don't know for certain. Suspect if one is strong enough in upper body can just keep walking up to next cloth rung. Otherwise, recommend installation of a davit letting just one guy swim at a time.

Actually, agree that re-entry can be tricky. I have bruised myself pretty good a couple of times- throwing leg over gunwale. The whole picture the original post presents just struck me funny. Would be a good comic in a boaters magazine. Good luck David

Wreckdiver posted 06-25-2002 04:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for Wreckdiver  Send Email to Wreckdiver     
You have to get the first step deep enough so that you can balance on the ladder before you start up. I have only used them on sailboats with pretty high sides, but think it should work for a small boat if you keep your weight centered over the ladder as you come up.
Bob
Chap posted 06-25-2002 04:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chap  Send Email to Chap     
Hello,
I keep a triple SeaStep on the boat at all times for fun and safety. Might be compatable with a 13 some how. Easy to store.

www.clevel.com/seasteps.shtml

Thanks
Chap

ShrimpBurrito posted 06-26-2002 01:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for ShrimpBurrito  Send Email to ShrimpBurrito     
David - I thought the original post was hilarious too. Would make a great clip on America's Funniest Home Movies.....

Chap - That SeaStep looks interesting, but looks like it might require one hand holding each loop to get each foot in. Is that the case, or can you pretty much ascend as effortlessly and quickly as a ladder?

Chap posted 06-26-2002 09:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chap  Send Email to Chap     
Burrito,
One cannot ascend as effortlessly and quickly as a rigid ladder. We bring a rigid ladder with standoffs when we know we're swimming, clamming etc. The SeaSteps live on the boat for times like Dig ran into and also for emergency. It is pretty wide, so you can hold onto it up high while you get that first foot into the loop. Overkill but handy, Dad adhered to O'Tooles Law and now so do I; Pascoe too. O'Toole believed Murphy was overly optimistic.
Thanks
Chap
Tom W Clark posted 06-26-2002 10:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Digs1622,

What you probably want is a simple hook ladder like a Garelik three step. They're cheap (maybe $30 from West Marine) fold flat and work way much than a rope ladder.

You see ladders like these in all the old Whaler catalogs.

But regarding getting back into the boat without a ladder, you can always use the cavitation plate on the outboard as a step to climb over the transom. May not be super comfortable and you have to mind the rigging but the motor won't mind.

I've never used a ladder to get back on board, always the motor. That's over 25 years of boarding and no problems. I do make a point to tell anybody on board to keep their hands away from the controls and, in the case of my Outrage and Montauks where there is line-of-sight to the helm, I would visually verify that the ignition was not switched on.

Digs1622 posted 06-26-2002 03:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for Digs1622  Send Email to Digs1622     
I decided to go with Tom's suggestion from west marine...descrip as follows.....Collapses for compact stores. Polycarbonate steps are connected with nylon rope. Top loop secures the ladder to a cleat or railing. Capacity: 300lb. 5 steps, each
11.75''W. 5.5'L Collapsed length: 6''. Cost is only 25.99. Hopefully I wont have to have nitemares floating off my bowrail for hours on end, drifting endlessly:)

Thanks for all your help everyone!

Digs

David Ratusnik posted 06-26-2002 04:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Ratusnik  Send Email to David Ratusnik     
Digs- Still LOL. Great story. Good luck, pleased you've found the solution. David

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