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james cosby posted 07-04-2002 08:26 PM ET (US)
I'm totally restoring my 1971 Outrage. It originally had twin outboards with Teleflex cable steering. I want to replace the twins with a single Yamaha 200. Do I really need the hydraulic steering or will the cable system be OK? I've read in the forum in the past where hydraulic was preferred, but the $900 price is kinda hard to swallow. Any suggestions? Thanks JC
jimh posted 07-04-2002 10:09 PM ET (US)
Hydraulic steering can now be had for about $650 retail list price. See the new side mount package from Teleflex (but it may be for boat under 150 HP).
Shoreway Marine has excellent pricing on Teleflex steering components.
acseatsri posted 07-04-2002 10:33 PM ET (US)
Or keep a watch on Ebay. I got mine for $350. Just do a search using "hydraulic steering" every week or less. And YES, it is FAR superior to cable steering.
JWK posted 07-04-2002 11:45 PM ET (US)
Just converted my '72 outrage to hydraulic.
To mount on original center console required the rear mount helm, not the front mount that comes standard in the kit. Found that out after kit arrived, company would have substituted if I knew beforhand. Charged me for rear mount helm(slightly more expensive) and refunded for front mount helm when I returned it.
Also had to do some surgery inside the original dash with a dremel tool to make the helm fit. On my back, head in console with shavings falling in my face. My wife thought I was quite a sight when I emerged.
Have someone besides your 8 year old son help you fill the system with oil and purge the air. I ended up with more oil on myself and in the boat than in the system.
After all was said and done - Works smooth and easily. Should have done it long ago.
John
JWK posted 07-04-2002 11:54 PM ET (US)
Thinking about repowering myself.
Currently have a 115 Mariner, which I feel is a bit enemic.
Have also read that although the boat is rated for 200hp, 150hp is more appropriate by todays standards vs. standards from 30 years ago.
Fourm members that have had 200hp on this boat found the hull to quite a handful at top end, and did not recommend it to others.
What are your thoughts?
John
james cosby posted 07-05-2002 09:21 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the advice. I also read where the 200 on a 21' outrage is hard to handle at WOT. I have considered the 150, but I didn't know how the boat would perform. But I think I will go with the hydralic system.
Thanks. JC

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Author	Topic: Hydraulic Steering
james cosby	posted 07-04-2002 08:26 PM ET (US) I'm totally restoring my 1971 Outrage. It originally had twin outboards with Teleflex cable steering. I want to replace the twins with a single Yamaha 200. Do I really need the hydraulic steering or will the cable system be OK? I've read in the forum in the past where hydraulic was preferred, but the $900 price is kinda hard to swallow. Any suggestions? Thanks JC
jimh	posted 07-04-2002 10:09 PM ET (US) Hydraulic steering can now be had for about $650 retail list price. See the new side mount package from Teleflex (but it may be for boat under 150 HP). Shoreway Marine has excellent pricing on Teleflex steering components.
acseatsri	posted 07-04-2002 10:33 PM ET (US) Or keep a watch on Ebay. I got mine for $350. Just do a search using "hydraulic steering" every week or less. And YES, it is FAR superior to cable steering.
JWK	posted 07-04-2002 11:45 PM ET (US) Just converted my '72 outrage to hydraulic. To mount on original center console required the rear mount helm, not the front mount that comes standard in the kit. Found that out after kit arrived, company would have substituted if I knew beforhand. Charged me for rear mount helm(slightly more expensive) and refunded for front mount helm when I returned it. Also had to do some surgery inside the original dash with a dremel tool to make the helm fit. On my back, head in console with shavings falling in my face. My wife thought I was quite a sight when I emerged. Have someone besides your 8 year old son help you fill the system with oil and purge the air. I ended up with more oil on myself and in the boat than in the system. After all was said and done - Works smooth and easily. Should have done it long ago. John
JWK	posted 07-04-2002 11:54 PM ET (US) Thinking about repowering myself. Currently have a 115 Mariner, which I feel is a bit enemic. Have also read that although the boat is rated for 200hp, 150hp is more appropriate by todays standards vs. standards from 30 years ago. Fourm members that have had 200hp on this boat found the hull to quite a handful at top end, and did not recommend it to others. What are your thoughts? John
james cosby	posted 07-05-2002 09:21 AM ET (US) Thanks for the advice. I also read where the 200 on a 21' outrage is hard to handle at WOT. I have considered the 150, but I didn't know how the boat would perform. But I think I will go with the hydralic system. Thanks. JC