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KDW posted 07-11-2002 12:25 AM ET (US)
Howdy Folks,
Pls. don't shoot me. This may have been covered already in past discussions, but I've read several threads covering damaged screw holes and seen various opinions.
I've taken out the mahogany floor cleats on a 1970 Nauset and broken several brass screws in the process(BW Drawings say they're bronze??). Anyhow, I think I can just increase the screws one size and use Stainless to get a good re-attachment of the cleats to the floor. Question: What is the best sealant to put in the floor screw holes and on the S.S. screws before I re-attach the cleats? I've got some 3M 5200 which looks like it would work, but it claims to also be an adhesive and will I be able to get the screws back out later if I use this stuff? Or, is it just better to use the 3M "above the water line" marine silicone or something else?
Any advice to a novice from you Whaler experts out there would be greatly appreciated.
Kenny

Tom W Clark posted 07-11-2002 12:31 AM ET (US)
Kenny,
3M 5200 will work fine for the screws. If you bed the entire cleat in it you may not get it off the floor of your boat in one piece though. But for screws, no problem.
Alternatives include 3M 4200 which is less tenacious than 5200, or 3M 101 which is a polysulfide caulk which is good for bedding things. Sika and BoatLife both make comparable products.
Do not use brass screws. They are too soft. Stainless steel is what you want. Don't be afrain to drill new holes to get a really good grip.
ChocLabWhaler posted 07-11-2002 07:12 AM ET (US)
With risk of being redundant, Can I use 3M 4200/5200 on the screw holes for the bow rail? Screws ripped out if the deck. Or, should I epoxy, cure and redrill?
Thanks,
CLW
OutrageMan posted 07-11-2002 07:56 AM ET (US)
I generally use putty epoxy to fill the old holes. Then I redrill and set new screws.
In my tool box, putty epoxy getts almost as much use as duct tape :)
Brian

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Author	Topic: Best Way To Seal Cleat Holes??
KDW	posted 07-11-2002 12:25 AM ET (US) Howdy Folks, Pls. don't shoot me. This may have been covered already in past discussions, but I've read several threads covering damaged screw holes and seen various opinions. I've taken out the mahogany floor cleats on a 1970 Nauset and broken several brass screws in the process(BW Drawings say they're bronze??). Anyhow, I think I can just increase the screws one size and use Stainless to get a good re-attachment of the cleats to the floor. Question: What is the best sealant to put in the floor screw holes and on the S.S. screws before I re-attach the cleats? I've got some 3M 5200 which looks like it would work, but it claims to also be an adhesive and will I be able to get the screws back out later if I use this stuff? Or, is it just better to use the 3M "above the water line" marine silicone or something else? Any advice to a novice from you Whaler experts out there would be greatly appreciated. Kenny
Tom W Clark	posted 07-11-2002 12:31 AM ET (US) Kenny, 3M 5200 will work fine for the screws. If you bed the entire cleat in it you may not get it off the floor of your boat in one piece though. But for screws, no problem. Alternatives include 3M 4200 which is less tenacious than 5200, or 3M 101 which is a polysulfide caulk which is good for bedding things. Sika and BoatLife both make comparable products. Do not use brass screws. They are too soft. Stainless steel is what you want. Don't be afrain to drill new holes to get a really good grip.
ChocLabWhaler	posted 07-11-2002 07:12 AM ET (US) With risk of being redundant, Can I use 3M 4200/5200 on the screw holes for the bow rail? Screws ripped out if the deck. Or, should I epoxy, cure and redrill? Thanks, CLW
OutrageMan	posted 07-11-2002 07:56 AM ET (US) I generally use putty epoxy to fill the old holes. Then I redrill and set new screws. In my tool box, putty epoxy getts almost as much use as duct tape :) Brian