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Bluebill posted 08-06-2002 11:15 PM ET (US)
I've acquired a 13' hull (older model with blue interior and notched transom) that has seen extensive abuse. The exterior has numerous (10) punctures and gashes down to the foam that have been poorly repaired (including bondo, marine-tex, polyester and glass, all over old paint and gelcoat). The interior had a false foredeck installed with rusting screws and a console that left numerous holes in the deck. I have stripped it down most of the way, and opened up several holes to assist in drying and have been baking it in the 100+ degree heat of Central California for a month. After reading all of the pertinent threads on this forum, I still have a question...Should I try to patch all indivual holes and gashes in the hull (one is over 2 square feet) with foam,West sytems epoxy and glass, or is it an option to fill holes then lay glass cloth with epoxy or polyester resin over the entire hull and gelcoat to smooth? Am also considering using Line-ex for interior since it is so chewed up.
Bigshot posted 08-07-2002 10:01 AM ET (US)
Before you start....what are your plans for this wreck? Do you want a museum piece or a beater? Not trying to be a smartass but you are opening up a can of worms that might be rotten. Have the hull weighed first and see how waterlogged it is. If bad, you might want to start with a better hull.
Bluebill posted 08-07-2002 02:57 PM ET (US)
I'm actually planning on using it for a duck hunting rig on the Sacramento River and Klamath Basin...so I'm not conducting a "restoration"...just want a boat that won't sink if I swamp it or take water into the core...appearance is not a factor as it will be painted dull green...any guidance on what a bare hull should weigh?
Bigshot posted 08-07-2002 03:56 PM ET (US)
under 300lbs closer to 250. Should be agreat project for that....and maybe a resto. Just wanted to check before you spend $3000 on a $1200 boat, etc.
Bluebill posted 08-10-2002 10:38 PM ET (US)
I paid $300 for boat motor and trailer , scrapped the motor and trailer, and anticipate putting many hours of labor plus materials to get it running. I weighed it in at close to 265 pounds...should I assume I've gotten most of the water out?
Tom W Clark posted 08-11-2002 01:51 PM ET (US)
Bluebill,
If your hull weighs 265 pounds then it's totally dry. That's really good news and you can feel comfortable investing some time, energy and money fixing it up. Good luck and have fun.
brads13ft62whaler posted 08-11-2002 02:16 PM ET (US)
so what's the best way to weigh 13 ft boat?
Tom W Clark posted 08-11-2002 02:25 PM ET (US)
Find a certified scale at a truck stop or city dump or some such business. Look in the Yellow Pages under "Scales, Public".
Take you boat (stripped of as much gear as possible including the motor, if possible) and trailer to the scale and weight it. Then launch or unload the boat and weigh the trailer. Subtract the trailer weight from the first weight and voilà, you have the boat's weight
brads13ft62whaler posted 08-11-2002 08:27 PM ET (US)
Thanks, I'm interested to see (and fearful of what I'll find)...

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Author	Topic: abused 13'hull
Bluebill	posted 08-06-2002 11:15 PM ET (US) I've acquired a 13' hull (older model with blue interior and notched transom) that has seen extensive abuse. The exterior has numerous (10) punctures and gashes down to the foam that have been poorly repaired (including bondo, marine-tex, polyester and glass, all over old paint and gelcoat). The interior had a false foredeck installed with rusting screws and a console that left numerous holes in the deck. I have stripped it down most of the way, and opened up several holes to assist in drying and have been baking it in the 100+ degree heat of Central California for a month. After reading all of the pertinent threads on this forum, I still have a question...Should I try to patch all indivual holes and gashes in the hull (one is over 2 square feet) with foam,West sytems epoxy and glass, or is it an option to fill holes then lay glass cloth with epoxy or polyester resin over the entire hull and gelcoat to smooth? Am also considering using Line-ex for interior since it is so chewed up.
Bigshot	posted 08-07-2002 10:01 AM ET (US) Before you start....what are your plans for this wreck? Do you want a museum piece or a beater? Not trying to be a smartass but you are opening up a can of worms that might be rotten. Have the hull weighed first and see how waterlogged it is. If bad, you might want to start with a better hull.
Bluebill	posted 08-07-2002 02:57 PM ET (US) I'm actually planning on using it for a duck hunting rig on the Sacramento River and Klamath Basin...so I'm not conducting a "restoration"...just want a boat that won't sink if I swamp it or take water into the core...appearance is not a factor as it will be painted dull green...any guidance on what a bare hull should weigh?
Bigshot	posted 08-07-2002 03:56 PM ET (US) under 300lbs closer to 250. Should be agreat project for that....and maybe a resto. Just wanted to check before you spend $3000 on a $1200 boat, etc.
Bluebill	posted 08-10-2002 10:38 PM ET (US) I paid $300 for boat motor and trailer , scrapped the motor and trailer, and anticipate putting many hours of labor plus materials to get it running. I weighed it in at close to 265 pounds...should I assume I've gotten most of the water out?
Tom W Clark	posted 08-11-2002 01:51 PM ET (US) Bluebill, If your hull weighs 265 pounds then it's totally dry. That's really good news and you can feel comfortable investing some time, energy and money fixing it up. Good luck and have fun.
brads13ft62whaler	posted 08-11-2002 02:16 PM ET (US) so what's the best way to weigh 13 ft boat?
Tom W Clark	posted 08-11-2002 02:25 PM ET (US) Find a certified scale at a truck stop or city dump or some such business. Look in the Yellow Pages under "Scales, Public". Take you boat (stripped of as much gear as possible including the motor, if possible) and trailer to the scale and weight it. Then launch or unload the boat and weigh the trailer. Subtract the trailer weight from the first weight and voilà, you have the boat's weight
brads13ft62whaler	posted 08-11-2002 08:27 PM ET (US) Thanks, I'm interested to see (and fearful of what I'll find)...