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vdbgroup posted 08-21-2002 12:03 AM ET (US)   Profile for vdbgroup   Send Email to vdbgroup  
OK, its up to you guys! Let me know what you think....

13' Standard: 2 Thwart Seats, Risers, Bow Locker Hatch

1" Thick Starboard cut to fit and install COST $150.00

5/4 Mahogany planed to 1 inch. Cost for Wood $165.00 Varnish, Coatings, Brushes, etc. $65.00 Labor $???.

What's the collective thought.

Do I muscle up and go for that ultra nice Mahogany look that I would work so hard to acheive, that I would not want to sit on..... Or just go for the starboard??????

And Bigshot, the above are the only two categories.. NO treated lumber from HOME Depot.

Thanks.

Double Limits posted 08-21-2002 01:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for Double Limits  Send Email to Double Limits     
What I did was take off all of my wood and stripped and re-varnished it and stored it all in my garage. I then made all new pieces out of Starboard. I use the starboard for my day to day fishing and diving, nice low maintenance, no worries about scratches or other damage. In about 45 minutes with a screw gun I can have it all swapped out for that nice glossy wood finish for special occasions.
Regards,
Doug
JBCornwell posted 08-21-2002 07:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
I like Doug's approach, except that I would use painted clear "yellow" pine for the everyday stuff.

Red sky at night. . .
JB :)

David Jenkins posted 08-21-2002 10:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for David Jenkins  Send Email to David Jenkins     
Go with the mahogany, thick as possible. You will get your money back on resale, and you'll enjoy looking at it more.
RichAA posted 08-21-2002 01:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for RichAA  Send Email to RichAA     
I did mine out of furniture-grade mahogany. I installed it before staining or finishing so I'd have the screw holes, took it out, put on like 4 coats of marine-grade poly, installed it all, then took it out and put 3 more coats on (so I'd get the screw holes again) and installed it again. It's been holding up pretty nicely (9 years).

Rich
1983 Sport 15

adaco posted 08-21-2002 02:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for adaco  Send Email to adaco     
My 17' Standard, converted to a center console, RPS seated "Montauk" has a light oak , planked hatch cover which does not look that good with the teak on the RPS seat. Did the earlier Montauks have a darker colored wooden hatch cover (either teak or mahogany?) and, would anyone familiar with the characteristics of both woods recommend one over the other; given that from appearance standpoint only, teak would be an obvious match with the RPS seat.
vdbgroup posted 08-21-2002 05:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for vdbgroup  Send Email to vdbgroup     
Hey, let keep on the subject.

What thickness Starboard vs. Mahogany?

1" Starboard is very heavy. 3/4" would be Ok but it has flex in it and it would have to be backed up with some bracing.

I like the idea of having two sets.

Is it a pain in the butt to do the Varnishing to perfection?

David Jenkins posted 08-21-2002 11:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Jenkins  Send Email to David Jenkins     
The pain would be taking one set out and putting another in. You would change out the "risers?" Would you remove the console? I would just use one set of boards.

Varnishing is fun if you have the right mindset. And you just read from RichAA that it can last years and years if you start with seven or ten coats and keep it out of the sunlight when not at sea. Cheers!

Tim Ehlers posted 08-21-2002 11:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tim Ehlers  Send Email to Tim Ehlers     
Use mahogany. I put my 72 Katama back together this summer and made some console parts and a RPS out of Mahogany and it looks beautiful. I did use starboard for console risers and some other things and will replace all but the risers with mahogany. I wish I had made the risers out of wood and epoxied/painted them to match the console. Varnishing is a pain, but fun in a masochistic sort of way. Read past posts for advice on varnishing. They helped me a great deal.
Starboard: Pros; no varnish, easy to work with, uniform material, clean and white. Cons; scratches easily, scratches and all but finest sanding holds dirt and looks like heck, not very stiff, heavy, can't glue it, can't plug and repair holes very well, looks like plastic which it is.
Mahogany: Pros; lighter and stiffer, glueable, screwable, repairable, can sand scratches out of a thick varnish job and repair like new, looks incredibly rich and boat like. Cons; has to be varnished and this takes work, money and time. Time is the real reason I used any starboard at all. I smile everytime I look at the rich varnished mahogany next to the white shiny console or the custom white upholstered cushion on the mahogany RPS. The two starboard doors and fishfinder/compass platform just look like chunks of cutting boards. Tim
David Jenkins posted 08-21-2002 11:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Jenkins  Send Email to David Jenkins     
That smile is why we own Boston Whalers. Keep it classic. Cheers!
bocadrew posted 08-22-2002 09:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for bocadrew  Send Email to bocadrew     
Two sets' of wood? One for speacial occasions? You guys are unreal!
AnthonyT posted 08-22-2002 02:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for AnthonyT  Send Email to AnthonyT     
If it was me, I would go with the mahogany and then have seat cushions for everyday use and remove them for those special occasions... But that is just me, who loves wood...


AnthonyT

lhg posted 08-22-2002 06:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Be aware that starboard can warp when used in large sections and lengths. It is really only for smaller components. Every single Whaler Standard that I have seen with the Starboard side seat hold-downs were warped, and looked terrible.

I you must go with Starboard, use black. It is the only color that doesn't show dirt, abrasion and wear, all impossible to clean in the lighter colors.

vdbgroup posted 08-22-2002 09:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for vdbgroup  Send Email to vdbgroup     
Mahogony Wins!

Lighter, stronger, and nice to look at.

I am going to buy some the new 1" Starboard Anti-Skid and make an extra hatch cover and a special casting deck for the bow, for the occasional use when it will get heavy foot traffic.

Thanks to all.

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