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Kurt Gett posted 08-23-2002 10:24 PM ET (US)
I am the 3rd owner of a 71 outrage, hull 00130 that is in original condition less the helm seat. I am considering patching up the topsides of my swiss cheese like gunwales with a strip of teak from the stern to a point just fwd on the console. I think this will be in the Whaler style of the outrage (but not the 71). It is ccertainly less work then repairing the holes and gelcoat. What do y'all think??? Whoda and Gymah (aka Hooter and Jimh, I'd really like your opinions on this matter. Is it too much of a sin to alter the original outrage? If you want to see pics of the ondition of my gunwales, email me at kurtgett@aol.com and give me few days to take pics and send. Regards, Kurt G
dfmcintyre posted 08-23-2002 11:01 PM ET (US)
Kurt -
I think that in a whaler other then the 21, you could probably get away with it. With the 21 hull, with a double "lip", your inviting alot of dirt to take up residence along those channels, as you probably are not considering fairing the teak right up snug to the curves of the lip.
Don
Kurt Gett posted 08-23-2002 11:12 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the quick reply. I am not at a point to think of the design. I am first hoping to get an opinon pole - if users think its OK to alter the first, and classic, 71 outrage. I already have lost sleep trying to design a piece of teak that will fit, look good (original?), and not trap dirt. Regards, Kurt G
bdb posted 08-24-2002 09:34 AM ET (US)
Kurt,
I had a '71 21' too. And I often thought about doing exactly what you're proposing, and for some similar reasons. If you have the original teak console it would be a great look. Personally I'd keep the teak fairly thin, and just covering the center of the gunwhale, not the drain grooves. There is quite a bit of slope in the gunwhale so you will be faced with lots of fasteners, and you would probably want to cover those fasteners with teak plugs, in keeping with the console. Good luck
hooter posted 08-24-2002 12:08 PM ET (US)
Foist, a disclaimer: Ah've been on a few but never owned a pre-'80 hull, so Ah'm not on intimate terms wid'it like some o'dese folks. But here's a couple thoughts: 1) look'it Cetacea Page 55. By 1977, BW agreed wid yer idear. Very pretty. 2) Lookin at Mr. McIntyre's pretty '73 on Cetacea Page 37, dat earlier gunnel looks awful curvy. BDB's thoughts are prob'ly sound, but a thin piece of teak seems likely to crack even'tially if left under stress. Fastened down well an' kept erled, it might just woik. Dat job's goin' t'be a doozey, though. Have ya considered millin' some white starboard into gun'l caps instead of teak? Bevel da edges nice like on mah 18'. Some matchin' deck caulk would solve most of da dirt problems. Not as pretty as dat '77, but maybe more serviceable in yer case. Another thought: Some o'dese fellers might want ta rip dat cheezey gunnel piece off entirely an' make a low-rider outta'ver! Good luck wid yer choice.

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Author	Topic: Teak Gunwales on a 71 Outrage 21????
Kurt Gett	posted 08-23-2002 10:24 PM ET (US) I am the 3rd owner of a 71 outrage, hull 00130 that is in original condition less the helm seat. I am considering patching up the topsides of my swiss cheese like gunwales with a strip of teak from the stern to a point just fwd on the console. I think this will be in the Whaler style of the outrage (but not the 71). It is ccertainly less work then repairing the holes and gelcoat. What do y'all think??? Whoda and Gymah (aka Hooter and Jimh, I'd really like your opinions on this matter. Is it too much of a sin to alter the original outrage? If you want to see pics of the ondition of my gunwales, email me at kurtgett@aol.com and give me few days to take pics and send. Regards, Kurt G
dfmcintyre	posted 08-23-2002 11:01 PM ET (US) Kurt - I think that in a whaler other then the 21, you could probably get away with it. With the 21 hull, with a double "lip", your inviting alot of dirt to take up residence along those channels, as you probably are not considering fairing the teak right up snug to the curves of the lip. Don
Kurt Gett	posted 08-23-2002 11:12 PM ET (US) Thanks for the quick reply. I am not at a point to think of the design. I am first hoping to get an opinon pole - if users think its OK to alter the first, and classic, 71 outrage. I already have lost sleep trying to design a piece of teak that will fit, look good (original?), and not trap dirt. Regards, Kurt G
bdb	posted 08-24-2002 09:34 AM ET (US) Kurt, I had a '71 21' too. And I often thought about doing exactly what you're proposing, and for some similar reasons. If you have the original teak console it would be a great look. Personally I'd keep the teak fairly thin, and just covering the center of the gunwhale, not the drain grooves. There is quite a bit of slope in the gunwhale so you will be faced with lots of fasteners, and you would probably want to cover those fasteners with teak plugs, in keeping with the console. Good luck
hooter	posted 08-24-2002 12:08 PM ET (US) Foist, a disclaimer: Ah've been on a few but never owned a pre-'80 hull, so Ah'm not on intimate terms wid'it like some o'dese folks. But here's a couple thoughts: 1) look'it Cetacea Page 55. By 1977, BW agreed wid yer idear. Very pretty. 2) Lookin at Mr. McIntyre's pretty '73 on Cetacea Page 37, dat earlier gunnel looks awful curvy. BDB's thoughts are prob'ly sound, but a thin piece of teak seems likely to crack even'tially if left under stress. Fastened down well an' kept erled, it might just woik. Dat job's goin' t'be a doozey, though. Have ya considered millin' some white starboard into gun'l caps instead of teak? Bevel da edges nice like on mah 18'. Some matchin' deck caulk would solve most of da dirt problems. Not as pretty as dat '77, but maybe more serviceable in yer case. Another thought: Some o'dese fellers might want ta rip dat cheezey gunnel piece off entirely an' make a low-rider outta'ver! Good luck wid yer choice.