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Shadow posted 09-04-2002 09:46 AM ET (US)
I'm in the process of redoing the interior of a 1970 BW Nauset. I've got the Center Console out, it was rotten. Now this boat had 2 Pedastel seats behind the Console. The bases are still there. I want to build a bench seat with a swinging backrest and have storage under the seat. What do you recommend?Removing the Swivil bases and sealing up the hole and the 8 screws in each base or building the bench right over the bases and making sure the stay sealed. I plan to put an 18 gallon gas tank under the console. Any comments or recomendations.
JBCornwell posted 09-04-2002 11:04 AM ET (US)
Ahoy, Shadow.
I would take the bases out and seal the screw holes. That way you preclude any water intrusion (and rot) from poor sealing of the bases.
Red sky at night. . .
JB :)
Shadow posted 09-04-2002 12:53 PM ET (US)
I forgot to mention the pedastel hole is about 3 inches in dia. That's the hole I'm worried about Shadow
ratherwhalering posted 09-04-2002 01:07 PM ET (US)
Shadow:
It kinda sounds like you expect to find one large hole in the floor surrounded by 8 smaller screw holes. I don't think that is the case. I think that the base is secured by only the screws. You must seal those screw holes, though! Leaving the bases where they are will keep the seal that is currently there (assuming it is still good)but it may rob you of storage space later, especially if you are sliding a flat gas tank under that new pilot seat. There are lots of ways to fill those holes, all of which have been previously discussed on this forum. (try searching for the word 'hole' for the previous 2 years) They range from epoxying wood plugs, filling with epoxy, then finishing with gel coat, to simply removing the base and sealing with 5200, finishing washers and screws.
I guess it really depends on how much time you have, how permanant and reliable you want the seal, and how visible the repair will be.
ratherwhalering posted 09-04-2002 01:09 PM ET (US)
I guess there is a large hole there!
Tom W Clark posted 09-04-2002 01:14 PM ET (US)
Yes, the bases are flat on the bottom. Unless something radical has been done there will simply be the holes for the screws left in the deck once you remove the bases.
The only catch is that there is no wood in the floor of a 1970 Nauset for screwing the pedestal bases to, so something radical may have been done.
If the bases were glued down with something like 3M 5200 caulk then you have a problem. Those bases will not just pop off.
We can speculate all day long about what's under there but it seems like you should just remove the screws and see if the bases come up. If it's really ugly you can always reinstall them.
I would not assume the bases are properly sealed as of now so removing, or attempting to remove them is probably the prudent thing to do at any rate.
bhobbs posted 09-05-2002 10:40 PM ET (US)
I'm supprised the seats are still there. I had 2 and they had been so poorly sealed what little wood they were attached to had rotted out.

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Author	Topic: Removing 2 Pedastel Seats
Shadow	posted 09-04-2002 09:46 AM ET (US) I'm in the process of redoing the interior of a 1970 BW Nauset. I've got the Center Console out, it was rotten. Now this boat had 2 Pedastel seats behind the Console. The bases are still there. I want to build a bench seat with a swinging backrest and have storage under the seat. What do you recommend?Removing the Swivil bases and sealing up the hole and the 8 screws in each base or building the bench right over the bases and making sure the stay sealed. I plan to put an 18 gallon gas tank under the console. Any comments or recomendations.
JBCornwell	posted 09-04-2002 11:04 AM ET (US) Ahoy, Shadow. I would take the bases out and seal the screw holes. That way you preclude any water intrusion (and rot) from poor sealing of the bases. Red sky at night. . . JB :)
Shadow	posted 09-04-2002 12:53 PM ET (US) I forgot to mention the pedastel hole is about 3 inches in dia. That's the hole I'm worried about Shadow
ratherwhalering	posted 09-04-2002 01:07 PM ET (US) Shadow: It kinda sounds like you expect to find one large hole in the floor surrounded by 8 smaller screw holes. I don't think that is the case. I think that the base is secured by only the screws. You must seal those screw holes, though! Leaving the bases where they are will keep the seal that is currently there (assuming it is still good)but it may rob you of storage space later, especially if you are sliding a flat gas tank under that new pilot seat. There are lots of ways to fill those holes, all of which have been previously discussed on this forum. (try searching for the word 'hole' for the previous 2 years) They range from epoxying wood plugs, filling with epoxy, then finishing with gel coat, to simply removing the base and sealing with 5200, finishing washers and screws. I guess it really depends on how much time you have, how permanant and reliable you want the seal, and how visible the repair will be.
ratherwhalering	posted 09-04-2002 01:09 PM ET (US) I guess there is a large hole there!
Tom W Clark	posted 09-04-2002 01:14 PM ET (US) Yes, the bases are flat on the bottom. Unless something radical has been done there will simply be the holes for the screws left in the deck once you remove the bases. The only catch is that there is no wood in the floor of a 1970 Nauset for screwing the pedestal bases to, so something radical may have been done. If the bases were glued down with something like 3M 5200 caulk then you have a problem. Those bases will not just pop off. We can speculate all day long about what's under there but it seems like you should just remove the screws and see if the bases come up. If it's really ugly you can always reinstall them. I would not assume the bases are properly sealed as of now so removing, or attempting to remove them is probably the prudent thing to do at any rate.
bhobbs	posted 09-05-2002 10:40 PM ET (US) I'm supprised the seats are still there. I had 2 and they had been so poorly sealed what little wood they were attached to had rotted out.