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eastport posted 09-06-2002 01:13 PM ET (US)   Profile for eastport   Send Email to eastport  
Would it not make sense to archive on this site a collection of all the wood part plans everyone periodically keeps requesting? I have original Whaler copies of some, and electronic versions from others to donate?
Is this possible jimh?
DaveNJ posted 09-06-2002 01:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for DaveNJ  Send Email to DaveNJ     
What parts do you have ?

Brcurcio posted 09-06-2002 03:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for Brcurcio  Send Email to Brcurcio     
Eastport,
If you have some archived plans of how the wood goes together that would be great. As I have mentioned on this forum, I am curently trying to redo a 1978 15-foot that had none of the original wood in it. This is a big problem as you know. If I had the plans I would do the work myself out of a material of my choice. I hope this is something you can provide. Thanks.
Shadow posted 09-06-2002 04:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for Shadow  Send Email to Shadow     
I'm interested in plans to the bench seat with storage under it with the back rest that folds forward. That goes just behind the center console of the 1970 BW Nauset.
Shadow
eastport posted 09-06-2002 04:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for eastport  Send Email to eastport     
Only parts I have original from Whaler are console and seat production drawings for 16-Nauset. I received a Sakonnet seat pdf from another on this site, and have an Eastport rear seat which could be drawn. LOTS of posts on the site with other parts though, and expect others would be able to help.

FYI - EBWC is a fantastic place for those of us who don't have the time anymore to fabricate - I ordered new wood from them for my (third) restoration-in-progress.

eastport posted 09-06-2002 04:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for eastport  Send Email to eastport     
A console seat that folds forward is Sakonnet. PDF sent to you, Shadow. Good luck.
Cicada posted 09-06-2002 07:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for Cicada  Send Email to Cicada     
I have a '78 15' Sport with all the original wood that I'll be refinishing this winter. The only way to do it is to take it apart Doesn't seem like much of a problem to do some templates. Boat has the optional seat back (see the photo in the reference section). What's the best way to create templates? Scale drawings? Full size vellum for blueprints?
Paul Mott
eastport posted 09-07-2002 08:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for eastport  Send Email to eastport     
All whaler drawings were on letter size paper (scale drawings) which is preferable I think. Might be easier though to take full size traced templates on vellum for Brcurcio. These would be difficult to transmit though.
This is exactly why i would love to see an online archive.
jimh posted 09-07-2002 08:27 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
There are several problems from my perspective with developing an on-line collection of drawing plans, etc.

First, there is the issue of copyright. I don't know what the position of the Boston Whaler company might be about publishing so many of their drawings.

Second, there is the problem of the scanning of these drawings. Scanning produces quite a range of results. For example, recently someone submitted a scan of a wood locating drawing that was over 5-Megabytes. This single file was larger than the entire website used to be a few years ago! After working with the file I did get the digital image pared down to about 800K, and still with good resolution, but it demonstrates part of the problem. Producing good quality scans with reasonable file size takes some work. Archiving them takes some disk space.

While it is not unusual for a home computer to have 80-Gigabytes of hard drive storage, on-line storage space is harder to come by.

eastport posted 09-07-2002 12:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for eastport  Send Email to eastport     
Stortage does seem to be a fair consideration - how about an part drawing index - email link page for those of us who will then independently transmit drawings. (this might facilitate the disemination of the info better for those that want to rebuild)
- For what its worth, Whaler sent me my drawings directly when I asked many years ago...don't see why they would object, but you never know!
Scirocco posted 09-07-2002 08:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for Scirocco  Send Email to Scirocco     
the file size problem could be solved by using Adobe Acrobat. We use it at work for compressing documents so that they can be easily tranfered over the internet. It even works with images.

All you would need to do is buy one copy of the full version of Acrobat for who ever is doing the scanning and then anyone who wishes to read the compressed files can down load FREE acrobat reader progam.

It might be worth looking in to...
www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/main.html

ShrimpBurrito posted 09-07-2002 09:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for ShrimpBurrito  Send Email to ShrimpBurrito     
I've seen web hosts that wcome ith 3GB of space and unlimited transfer for something like $30/month. That's several thousand drawings at high quality.

Whaler may own a copyright on their drawings, but they do not own any rights to drawings of their designs that are made by someone else. Although I seriously doubt it, they could have a design patent on the layout of the wood in their boats, however, that would only allow them to sue someone who copied their design in a boat (or whatever was claimed in the patent) and selling it. In any event, patents issued at that time expired 17 years after issue date.

Case in point, do you think Chilton and Haynes got rights from all the car manufacturers to publish repair manuals?

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