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DaveNJ posted 09-19-2002 03:28 PM ET (US)   Profile for DaveNJ   Send Email to DaveNJ  
Anyone here have any experience rigging a 13' Whaler with a newer manual pull start (compression relief) motor with remote cables ? Frank Bell did it in the Cetacea section #23, but I don't know if he is an active member here any longer and his email may have changed. I did not hear back from him yet.

Anyway, I would like to do what he did with the manual start motor to eliminate need for a battery. I don't plan on using any accessories in the boat. For lights, I just plan to use a lantern battery mounted under the console.

Any recommendations on which newer motors this can be done with ? Any ideas are appreciated.

thanks,
Dave

Bigshot posted 09-19-2002 04:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
What engine?
DaveNJ posted 09-19-2002 04:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for DaveNJ  Send Email to DaveNJ     
Merc 25hp, 2 stroke
Yamaha 25hp
Johnson/Envirude 25-30HP

I have not gotten it yet, but I wanted to find out which one will work. Form the dealers I have spoken with, they all say it can't be done with the manual starts that usually have tillers.

Salmon Tub posted 09-19-2002 05:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Salmon Tub  Send Email to Salmon Tub     
Dave, look at each model closely and see if they have brackets to connect the shift and throttle, they should all have steering tubes and linkage tangs. It is then just a matter of removeing the tiller handle and connecting the others. They say you can't because a manual start is normally not equiped with a rectifier. No rectifier means no battery, no battery means no wire harness up to the console which would mean that the kill switch will no longer be used properly (with the lanyard around your wrist) and their lawyers don't like that open liability issue. It also is considered aukward to have to go and pull start, then return to the console. If the engine can be equiped with the brackets then you are most of the way there. I have this set up on a small aluminum and an 18 hp Tohatsu. The only tough part is at warm-up when I have to use the choke at the engine together with the throttle on the console. Otherwise it is fine.
Bigshot posted 09-20-2002 09:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
I know the 25-30hp Johnsons should have them. I have a 25 Johnson that is manual start and I have it hooked up to controls. I just tilt the tiller up and it stays, you can also remove it with 1 bolt. I know that the 6hp and up can usually be hooked up to remote sterring and controls. They all have steering tubes now. Mine did not and I needed a $75 bracket that mounts to the transom and the tube goes through it instead of the engine. The newer Johnsons you need 2 little brackets that mount to the side of the engine housing to hold the cables, the cables then clip into the shift lever and throttle assembly, real simple to do. I can't believe this would have changed in the last couple years.
Bigshot posted 09-20-2002 09:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
You can add a charging kit very easily. It runs off the magneto or whatever they use. My 6hp had one that was an option for like $40.
Drisney posted 09-20-2002 05:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for Drisney  Send Email to Drisney     
I recently looked at Honda outboards in the 25hp range..in spite of the high price tag I was very tempted. He had a barely used tiller model w/electric start. when I asked about the kit to convert to remote steering and start, I was told that the engine castings are different and you buy either tiller or remote they no longer convert.
Dave
Bigshot posted 09-23-2002 09:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Well that rules out Hondas......any other experiences. I know someone here just rigged up a new Johnson.
DaveS posted 09-24-2002 02:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for DaveS  Send Email to DaveS     
On one of my last boats, I had rigged a 30hp merc that way. I originally purchased the engine to go on my previous boat but then upgrade the boat...a very long story...I had the side mount control and pull start with a center console...worked great but then I got tired of using the pull start all the time and added the starter and used the pull as a back up...worked great and I never had a problem with it.

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