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Road Runner posted 09-21-2002 09:45 PM ET (US)   Profile for Road Runner   Send Email to Road Runner  
I am restoring a 1973 Outrage 19. The rear fish box looks like it is delaminated on the inside.It also sounds like it. There is also a crack on the outside back edge of the fish box.See pictures http://www.hpphoto.com/home/ViewMyAlbum.asp?coll_id=1892130
Any suggestions? FYI:The boat was never left in the water.However it was never covered untill I received it and was full of wet leaves.It has now been stored dry for 2 years while I finished other projects.
dfmcintyre posted 09-22-2002 05:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for dfmcintyre  Send Email to dfmcintyre     

My 21' Outrage has a removable fishbox. This would make what I'll suggest much easier. Is yours also removable?

Don

Road Runner posted 09-22-2002 10:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Road Runner  Send Email to Road Runner     
I wish it was removable. It is molded into the floor of the boat at the stern.The pictures were taken standing next to the motor looking down.
Road Runner posted 09-23-2002 08:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for Road Runner  Send Email to Road Runner     
A little help somebody. Do I need more info. I want to start this project.

Thanks,
Larry

Taylor posted 09-23-2002 09:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
Oh boy... I'd make a suggestion, but I'm afraid of what we call the 'mushroom factor' in old houses... that is that you go to do something small and it gets bigger and bigger and bigger. The name of the factor comes from the mushrooms found inside damp walls. Not a pretty sight.

I guess it really depends on how much work you want to do. If you're not afraid that of the mushroom factor you could grind out the bad glass, dig out the bad foam, put in some new blocks of foam shaped to fit and then glass it and gelcoat it as per the Whaler repair instructions.

I know several people have copies of the Whaler repair instructions. But the the basic variation on regular fiberblass repair is that you put in resin/glass mash that grabs the back of the skin. Then you lay in mat on the outside. Then you sand it to shape and gelcoat it.

Is this much effort indicated by the damage you are seeing?

I think the idea of grinding out all the bad and reglassing will give you a high end estimate of the amount of work. There may be simpler solutions.

Like Rino lining it? Just a thought.

jimh posted 09-24-2002 12:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
[Changed TOPIC; was "What is the best way to fix this area of boat"--jimh]
jimh posted 09-24-2002 12:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
From the pictures I get the impression that the backside of the well is not accessible. Is that correct?
jimh posted 09-24-2002 12:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Also, can you clarify where these fishboxes are located? I seem to recall that they are recessed in the motor splashwell.

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage55.html shows more detail on these.

Road Runner posted 09-24-2002 05:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for Road Runner  Send Email to Road Runner     
jimh you are correct on both. The fishbox is molded into the splash well under the teak cover you see in cetacea page 55 and the backside is not accessible. I thought about doing as Taylor suggests but want more input. The rest of the boat apears sound.

Thanks,
Larry

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