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Stereo and Speakers for 22-Outrage
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posted 01-13-2003 07:42 PM ET (US)
I know, I know, I've seen all the negative ideas on stereos on boats and such, but when it comes right down to it...my boat, my rules. I'll do my best not to irritate anyone else with my music. There is just nothing like a crystal calm morning running across the flats and reefs with top to bottom visibility while a little Bob Marley or "old" Buffett provides a soundtrack to the ride. Anyway, I purchased a pair of the 6.5" Pioneer speakers and am looking for a good location. I know that placing them into the foamed sections of the hull will more or less kill the sound quality and put holes into my precious foam. I have the larger (not sure what you call it) center console and would like to install them facing outward from the bottom area. Two questions... Will this affect the compass located at the center section on top of the console dash? Anyone else located them here with good sound and such? As for a stereo/cd player, I cannot decide. I want something that will not skip too extensively, has good power output without having to add an amp, and can be mounted into the dash or the t-top electronics box. It sounds like a lot of ya'll think "marine" is a waste of money. Anyone have good experience with car stereos/cd players kept in as dry a location as can be found on a boat??
posted 01-13-2003 07:54 PM ET (US)
I have the super console on my 25' OR and
I have the speakers mounted on the aft facing surface of my CC. They are mounted even with the teak door, one on each side. I also have a tape AM/FM stereo mounted in the electronics box and no problems with the compass.
There are some photos on page 59 of Cetacea.
The stereo has 15 watts per speaker and that is plenty loud when cruising at 30 to 40.
Tape does not skip.
Let me know if I can be of any help.
posted 01-13-2003 08:04 PM ET (US)
Unless you hit a wave pretty hard, most currently available aftermarket CD players won't skip either. Just be sure to mention this to the salesperson at Circuit City - they'll help you find a model with the best skip-protection features (like extended memory and buffering).
Have fun - but please keep in mind that the music travels really, really well over the water when you're nearby other boaters (like me)!
posted 01-13-2003 08:07 PM ET (US)
Thanks Andy. Nice rig, wanna trade:) I think somebody has replaced the teak doors on my console with some black plastic doors on hinges. I think I have heard the term super console before, so that must be what I've got. I would prefer to mount the speakers on the console to provide more weather protection and provide better bass sound. I would do the tape thing, but have discovered mp3 which allows you to put something like 11 hours of music on one cd, therefore allowing you to swap cds less frequently. My buddy has a 28' catamaran and his cd never skips. Go figure.
posted 01-13-2003 08:59 PM ET (US)
The speakers in my 22 OR are in the plastic side covers, under the gunwales. Previous owner had them mounted there. The stereo, Jensen w/cd is in the elec. box under t-top...yes, the cd will skip!!
posted 01-13-2003 11:22 PM ET (US)
I mounted the speakers aft facing on either side of the opening in the console on my 17. The sound was great! I agree with the automotive stereo being better than the Maxxim marine unit I purchased later. A nice touch is the Sony waterproof cover to mount the stereo in. It has a gasketed flip down door. I am using this setup in my 13'. My 22 Revenge has the stereo mounted below with the speakers mounted in the sides of the cockpit. I am going to add speakers below connected to the fader function on the stereo so I can select speakers below while staying aboard. By the way; books on tape are fun at night in addition to music....Dave
posted 01-14-2003 10:09 AM ET (US)
I mounted mine at the bottom of the console facing aft (http://www.continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/images/consoleStb512x375.jpeg ).
The magnets may get in the way if you decide to go with the console. I bought a couple of Ĺ inch face plates at circuit city to get the clearance we needed and spray painted the white covers with black Varathane. Itís been 4 years and theyíre still black.
My unit and amp are inside the console. Itís dry, but I have to open the hatch when I want to adjust the stereo. The compass will definitely be messed up, but life is full of little compromises :(
A buddy mounted 2 speakers + sub in his leaning post. If you have a leaning post I really feel itís the way to go! His sounds much better Ė that sub makes a huge difference.
posted 01-14-2003 12:03 PM ET (US)
I flush-mounted a Jensen in the aft face of the console on my OR22, just above the open storage compartment down in the vertical face. Like reelescape 1, I mounted speakers in the removable side covers below the gunwales, just about even with the front of the console. I used Bose 131 flush-mount speakers, but had to fabricate teak "rings" about 1-1/2" thick to hold the speaker mounts out from the face of the panels enough that there was enough depth for the speaker cones before they reached the hull-side foam.
Looks great, sounds great - my opinion, at least...
posted 01-14-2003 01:19 PM ET (US)
From the guy a half mile away on the flats tryin' t'enjoy that same perfect morning in HIS Whaler, the best place you can place those speakers is in your car trunk. Listen to them all the way from home to and from the landing, if you please. Go ahead and put you a fine radio or whatever on your boat, and listen to it in your headset. Ah know, Ah know, Ah'm a friggin' dinosaur, but if Ah can hear your ray-gay tunes even a tiny bit, it's become "mah boat, YOUR rules" and that ain't very neighborly. No offense intended, please.
posted 01-14-2003 01:53 PM ET (US)
One thing I do on mine; is to put a switch on the dash connected to the power feed to the stereo. If someone is calling across the water to me, even a low volume on the stereo makes it hard to hear, I can kill the radio easily and put it back on just as easily....Dave
posted 01-14-2003 03:12 PM ET (US)
Well I am offenced and de-materialized that you would think I would allow Ray-Gay music on board my Whaler!! No way, no how! And truly I am the last guy who needs to impose my taste in music or spatial ambience, as impeccable as my tastes may be, on anyone else.
I do like, as I've said before, to play "The Ride of the Valkyries" cranked up close to brain damage level as I come in over the fishing grounds, just to kind of get the attention of my soon-to-be conquered scaly friends, kind of like the beach scene in "Apocolypse Now". And a little Dr. John, Van Morrison and Santana never hurt anybody.
But I won't do any of that when I see you are already parked out there.
posted 01-14-2003 03:45 PM ET (US)
Not t'degenerate this string into a mud-flingin' contest, Huey, but the only Wagner Ah can listen to any more, anywhere, is PORTER Waggoner, and even him not over mah blessed fishin' grounds. If a trout even farts just a li'l girly poot out there, Ah want t'be able t'hear the bubble break the surface. No friggin' racket, if you please.
posted 01-14-2003 06:44 PM ET (US)
I see your point hooter and get the feeling you must have a different taste in music than I do. Enough said. If you are on the flats, I am merely passing through 'cause I like eatin' more than I enjoy flingin' flies to scaly skeletons;). If ya start tossin' mud, you must be grounded up on that beloved flat ah yers. No offense taken, but please don't ever vote to ban music on the water when someones' masters thesis concludes that music in a boat affects manatee digestion and could lead to their extinction, even if its playing vogner on your marine gramophone:)
posted 01-14-2003 08:59 PM ET (US)
Great point Drisney!
I've also connected the amp to a toggle at the console. It makes a nice bang when I forget to turn the volume down before clicking the amp back on... but it sure beats scrambling for the volume control.
posted 01-20-2003 09:04 AM ET (US)
I put 10" round Polyplaners in my side panels like Reelescape - Looks and sounds great. Never could figure where to put a subwoofer, perhaps in the console pointing down. Got an amp and Sony car stereo in aftermarket leaning bench. I can't hear it when running - Unless I turned it up so loud that I would not want to hear it.
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