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JohnNorthEast posted 03-08-2003 03:27 PM ET (US)
I'm thinking about installing polyplanar speakers on the two plastic covers that house the fuel line hose on one side, and wiring on the other side. My worry is the far chance of some electrical sparking occurring in this enclosed “box” which may potentially have gas vapors. I plan to enclose all wires in the waterproof rubberized sealer ( liquid tape). However, I am interested in hearing how others view this idea. I have read earlier posts but I did not come across anyone addressing this as a safety concern.
seasled posted 03-09-2003 08:19 AM ET (US)
I have the same setup in my 91 outrage 19.I used liquid tape to seal the wires to the speakers to prevent what your taking about. SEASLED
JohnNorthEast posted 03-09-2003 11:35 AM ET (US)
Thank you SEASLED.
I plan to use the liquid tape as well and re check the connections yearly. I am curious as to the depth or bass tones provided by this enclosure. I have Poly-Planar, MA 409's, and when I set them up in the house there was very little depth to the sound. I enclosed them , using a bucket and cardboard, and found some improvement. I am curious as to the potential for sound ( bass) depth using the side panels on the Whaler?
mtgone posted 04-27-2003 02:27 AM ET (US)
Is there any vibration problems with mounting speakers this way?
Thanks,
Mark
kingfish posted 04-27-2003 08:47 AM ET (US)
I mounted Bose 131's on those side panels on my Outrage 22; they were a little deep so I had two 5/4" teak rings fabricated to shim the face of the speakers out from the panel-fronts.
Two years and the boat hasn't blown up yet, and the sound is great.
hooter posted 04-28-2003 12:09 PM ET (US)
Ah'll withold mah usual anti-on-the-water-music diatribe and note that Ah've seen one example of some great lookin' speaker enclosures built out of teak (may have been mahogany) to completely replace those fiberglass side panels. Bein' high-fidelitally inclined mahself, the obvious advantage would be a much more rigid surface for mountin' your speakers. Any give in the enclosure will reduce or eliminate the lower range of your bandwidth, so the wood should be a big improvement over usin' thaose fiberglass covers. You can also custom fit the depth t'suit your speaker. Note that you've got a 2" gas feeder hose and spring surround coil behind the cover t'deal with on one side, so check the location and fit before cuttin' the speaker holes in that expensive wood. Ah now keep a set ear plugs onboard for just such chance encounters on the bay, so rock on, man!
JohnNorthEast posted 05-13-2003 06:38 AM ET (US)
Sorry for the delay in follow up. Finally mounted speakers as intended and ocean tested this weekend.The fit using polyplanar 409 worked well and no other adjustment needed to be made. The first song was from Mozart next, the Beatles. They sound great. Oh, and I promise I will not be one of the idiots blasting my musical favorities across the waves to unwanted ears.
Many thanks
kingfish posted 05-13-2003 09:43 AM ET (US)
Hooter-
I didn't see your follow up until this morning, or I would have replied sooner, too.
You've given me a whole new idea for a project for my 22 (and the low end on those Bose 131's is pretty good already!). Gracias.
I wound up having to re-route the gas line just a skosh (an inch?) to allow for the back end of the Bose on the port side, installing the speakers in the OEM plastic side panels with teak extensions.
You can leave your ear plugs at home as far as encounters with this guy is concerned too, Hoot - (but thanks for the thought) - I am pretty careful also at least in not intentionally imposing my aural preferences on others. Playing the Ride of the Valkyries as I come in over the fishing grounds is just a fantasy I indulge in - makes me think of the smell of napalm in the morning as I prepare to do combat with the fishies...but it's just a fantasy-
kf

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Author	Topic: Speakers on an 18 foot outrage
JohnNorthEast	posted 03-08-2003 03:27 PM ET (US) I'm thinking about installing polyplanar speakers on the two plastic covers that house the fuel line hose on one side, and wiring on the other side. My worry is the far chance of some electrical sparking occurring in this enclosed “box” which may potentially have gas vapors. I plan to enclose all wires in the waterproof rubberized sealer ( liquid tape). However, I am interested in hearing how others view this idea. I have read earlier posts but I did not come across anyone addressing this as a safety concern.
seasled	posted 03-09-2003 08:19 AM ET (US) I have the same setup in my 91 outrage 19.I used liquid tape to seal the wires to the speakers to prevent what your taking about. SEASLED
JohnNorthEast	posted 03-09-2003 11:35 AM ET (US) Thank you SEASLED. I plan to use the liquid tape as well and re check the connections yearly. I am curious as to the depth or bass tones provided by this enclosure. I have Poly-Planar, MA 409's, and when I set them up in the house there was very little depth to the sound. I enclosed them , using a bucket and cardboard, and found some improvement. I am curious as to the potential for sound ( bass) depth using the side panels on the Whaler?
mtgone	posted 04-27-2003 02:27 AM ET (US) Is there any vibration problems with mounting speakers this way? Thanks, Mark
kingfish	posted 04-27-2003 08:47 AM ET (US) I mounted Bose 131's on those side panels on my Outrage 22; they were a little deep so I had two 5/4" teak rings fabricated to shim the face of the speakers out from the panel-fronts. Two years and the boat hasn't blown up yet, and the sound is great.
hooter	posted 04-28-2003 12:09 PM ET (US) Ah'll withold mah usual anti-on-the-water-music diatribe and note that Ah've seen one example of some great lookin' speaker enclosures built out of teak (may have been mahogany) to completely replace those fiberglass side panels. Bein' high-fidelitally inclined mahself, the obvious advantage would be a much more rigid surface for mountin' your speakers. Any give in the enclosure will reduce or eliminate the lower range of your bandwidth, so the wood should be a big improvement over usin' thaose fiberglass covers. You can also custom fit the depth t'suit your speaker. Note that you've got a 2" gas feeder hose and spring surround coil behind the cover t'deal with on one side, so check the location and fit before cuttin' the speaker holes in that expensive wood. Ah now keep a set ear plugs onboard for just such chance encounters on the bay, so rock on, man!
JohnNorthEast	posted 05-13-2003 06:38 AM ET (US) Sorry for the delay in follow up. Finally mounted speakers as intended and ocean tested this weekend.The fit using polyplanar 409 worked well and no other adjustment needed to be made. The first song was from Mozart next, the Beatles. They sound great. Oh, and I promise I will not be one of the idiots blasting my musical favorities across the waves to unwanted ears. Many thanks
kingfish	posted 05-13-2003 09:43 AM ET (US) Hooter- I didn't see your follow up until this morning, or I would have replied sooner, too. You've given me a whole new idea for a project for my 22 (and the low end on those Bose 131's is pretty good already!). Gracias. I wound up having to re-route the gas line just a skosh (an inch?) to allow for the back end of the Bose on the port side, installing the speakers in the OEM plastic side panels with teak extensions. You can leave your ear plugs at home as far as encounters with this guy is concerned too, Hoot - (but thanks for the thought) - I am pretty careful also at least in not intentionally imposing my aural preferences on others. Playing the Ride of the Valkyries as I come in over the fishing grounds is just a fantasy I indulge in - makes me think of the smell of napalm in the morning as I prepare to do combat with the fishies...but it's just a fantasy- kf