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captndon posted 03-10-2003 03:20 PM ET (US)   Profile for captndon   Send Email to captndon  
Just getting ready for the season and found
that the screws on both the port and starboard railing mounting plates are loose. (the single set of plates back from the bow) I tryed to screw them in and they just turn like they are stripped. The bedding is also pulling away. I have no BW dealer in the neighborhood, how do I approach this? Is there supposed to be a phenolic (sp) backing block behing these plates?

Thanks ;for the help


JBCornwell posted 03-10-2003 05:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
Hi, Captdon.

There are several good and permanent fixes.

The best is to drill the holes out and thread them for 1/4X20 machine screws. The Whaleboard backing takes machine threads well. You will need to modify the heads of the screws to make them fit the plate countersink.

Second choice is to replace the #12 screws with #14 screws and bed them with 5200.

You might do a search for "stripped screws". It is a subject that comes up often.

Red sky at night. . .

timbaho posted 03-10-2003 05:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for timbaho  Send Email to timbaho     
If you go offshore in 3-5' seas very often then get used to loose railing. Kevin
captndon posted 03-16-2003 07:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for captndon  Send Email to captndon     
Thanks for the reply, is there "whaler board"
behind those mounting points?

How thick is it? And what is 5200?



JBCornwell posted 03-16-2003 07:20 AM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
Yes, Don.

I don't know exactly when they switched from wood to Whaleboard, but I am sure your 2001 Montauk has it.

Don't know much about 5200, except that it is an excellent sealant.

Red sky at night. . .

TightPenny posted 03-17-2003 12:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for TightPenny  Send Email to TightPenny     
I have a 2000 Montauk, and never loosened a screw, I snapped them off.

The Whaler fix was to tap the backing (Whaleboard) for 1/4x20 machine screws. This has held up.

Watch out for broken screws from the floor of the console. They were my second problem.

Tom W Clark posted 03-17-2003 01:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Whaler started using Whaleboard (not "whaler board") in 1996 on some 1997 models. It is 3/8" thick.

Whaleboard is a phenolic resin material made from layers of paper impregnated with resin and compressed under tremendous pressure. It is extremely strong, hard and dense. It is manufactured by Rainier Richlite Company

5200 is a polyurethane adhesive/sealant caulk manufactured by 3M. It is powerfully strong, cures by moisture and costs a lot of money. Itís good stuff but should not be used for bedding hardware with any significant surface area, though it's fine for sealing screw holes.

Bigshot posted 03-17-2003 01:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
It is also called 5200 because there are 5200 ways to get it all over you and what you are working on. Don't sweat getting it all over, it takes a few days to dry(fast cure too) and cleans up easily with acetone, etc.

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