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TomNMiami posted 03-23-2003 12:13 PM ET (US)   Profile for TomNMiami   Send Email to TomNMiami  
What's the best way to restore the non-skid on a BW? I have seen it cleaned before, but rarely does it ever look new again (aka new gel coat look).

Does anyone have any secrets?

Thanks,
Tom

Taylor posted 03-23-2003 12:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
Woody Wax has been recommended, but I have yet to try it. While I can do a pretty good job of scrubbing my nonskid clean with a scrub brush and Bon Ami or Barkeepers friend it looks dull and seems to attract dirt. The Wood Wax is supposed to solve that problem. I think it might be more of a silicone than a wax. Perhaps someone who has used it will comment.
raygun posted 03-23-2003 01:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for raygun  Send Email to raygun     
I only use one product on my gel coat with excellent results. 3Mô Marine Fiberglass Cleaner and Wax with a polisher. It makes my boat glow, non skid and all.

My boat hadn't been waxed since my stepfather bought it 10 years ago and was at the dock with no cover every summer. This stuff brought it right back. I never needed to try the one for heavy oxidation that they make.

jimh posted 03-23-2003 01:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I have removed a hyperlink that was posted here because it was 164-characters long and really did not contribute substantially to the information content of the posting. I think anyone who wants to buy the product can find it at most boating centers that carry 3M products, even without consulting the website that was linked by the extraordinary long URI to see a picture of what it looked like.

I have used this product myself with good results.

TomNMiami posted 03-23-2003 02:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for TomNMiami  Send Email to TomNMiami     
Thanks for all the input...I'll track down the 3M site.

Thanks again,
Tom

jimh posted 03-23-2003 05:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I don't think you want to bring the non-skid to a high gloss finish. It probably reduces the effectiveness of the non-skid.

It is also important to begin buffing before the liquid cleaner/polish gets too dry. It is hard to get it out of the little channels in the non-skid.

dauntlass 18 posted 03-23-2003 05:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for dauntlass 18  Send Email to dauntlass 18     
Cleaning my anti skid with Barkeepers Friend and than coating with Woody Wax gets me good protection on anti skid and is not slippery.I just wash off decks with clear water and a soft brush after useing boat.A couple of times over summer I reapply Woody Wax.Woody Wax seems to keep dirt from sticking in anti skid.
smirkless posted 03-23-2003 08:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for smirkless  Send Email to smirkless     
I have tested a small area with Penetrol over two weeks ago and like it very much. I bought it for other reasons but it does list fiberglass restoration on the label. It reduces the white oxidation and darkens the color of the deck.
Does anyone know why I should not use this product on the whole deck? Answer only if you are sure, please. Smirk.
Fred Mix posted 03-24-2003 11:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for Fred Mix  Send Email to Fred Mix     
I have a 1976 13 & 17 and a 1990 22. Clean your deck with a good degreaser, then with bleach and water 50/50, then muratic acid and water 50/50. Let it dry and put a couple of coats of acrylic floor wax with a sponge. It will look nice and shiny and will resist dirt.
TomNMiami posted 03-24-2003 10:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for TomNMiami  Send Email to TomNMiami     
Fred,

I would have thought that frequent use of muratic acid would slowly ruin your gelcoat...have you had any such issues?

Tom

rsgwynn1 posted 03-24-2003 10:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for rsgwynn1  Send Email to rsgwynn1     
I used Woody Wax an my non-skid last year and was fairly pleased with it. It doesn't have a high gloss and is incredibly slippery until it dries, but it's easy to apply and seems fairly durable.
oldblue posted 03-25-2003 07:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for oldblue  Send Email to oldblue     
Smirk
I used Penetrol last year on my blue interior. It worked will and still looks good. Can't beat the price and ease of application. I'll be using it again this year
Joe
smirkless posted 03-25-2003 10:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for smirkless  Send Email to smirkless     
I think oldblue and I have you all beat with Penetrol. Easy, looks great, inexpensive.
Give it a try.

Smirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrk :-)

cdnturbo posted 03-26-2003 11:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for cdnturbo  Send Email to cdnturbo     
I like some of the others have used Penetrol on past boats with great success. Last night however I was looking around the internet and found some sites that said Penetrol will turn black after a while and is then very hard to remove.
Anybody here ever have that happen to them?
I did notice that after using it on the hull of my sailboat the hull had a slightly darker color after a couple of years use.
Born Free posted 03-28-2003 03:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for Born Free    
Who do you buy find Woody Wax from or where can you find it? It sounds pretty good.
JoeH posted 03-28-2003 05:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for JoeH  Send Email to JoeH     
Does penetrol leave the non-skid slick like wax? Joe
rsgwynn1 posted 03-28-2003 06:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for rsgwynn1  Send Email to rsgwynn1     
http://www.woody-wax.com/index.php
prm1177 posted 03-30-2003 01:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for prm1177  Send Email to prm1177     
I just found Woody Wax at West Marine. Giving it a try this weekend.
63WHALER posted 03-30-2003 08:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for 63WHALER    
I personally haven't used the Woody Wax yet, but have tried the Collinite #920 cleaner and #925 pure wax. Had excellent results and also used on non-skid areas. I didn't have any problems with the wax or cleaner drying in the textured areas, polished right out. The deck was clean but after waxing it glowed and didn't seem as dry? It really took the wax well, in fact thinking about doing a second time. This is on a 15' so not too bad of a job.

After time does gel-coat dry out so to speak?After the wax it feels and lookes better.

I will say the deck is a little more slick too walk on afterwards though.

smirkless posted 03-31-2003 07:25 AM ET (US)     Profile for smirkless  Send Email to smirkless     
JoeH, when you first cover the deck with Penetrol, its like oil. Let it sit for about 5 or 10 minutes then wipe off the excess with a terrycloth. Once it drys it won't be slick or waxy but it will add a little shine and it will eliminate most or all of the dry white gelcoat look. Smirk
prm1177 posted 03-31-2003 06:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for prm1177  Send Email to prm1177     
Got a beautiful finish by:

a) brushing the decks and non-skid down with West Marine boatwash and water. I used Bar Keeper's Friend sparingly on the few stains and spots (got them our right away).

b) applied Woody Wax to the rinsed deck. Brushed it smoothed.

c) rinsed after 1 beer (20 minutes)

d) let dry (another beer - how curious) and buffed the hase dry.

Gave me a very white finish. I will let you all know how well it holds up.

Also found Oxy Clean does a great job on those dirty fenders...

Paul

rsgwynn1 posted 04-02-2003 09:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for rsgwynn1  Send Email to rsgwynn1     
This was essentially my Woody Wax experience, but I substituted a couple of glasses of Merlot for the beers.
rsgwynn1 posted 04-02-2003 09:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for rsgwynn1  Send Email to rsgwynn1     
By the way, for other fiberglass I'm really sold on VertGlas. This stuff does a fine job and really holds up. It actually does a good job on the non-skid on my boy too.
prm1177 posted 04-09-2003 09:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for prm1177  Send Email to prm1177     
Woodywax report #1. While the wax has set up nicely, it doesn't seem to do much for those black footprints left by the boatyard workers. I will try a second coat this weekend.

I will have to say that the combo of boat wash and oxyclean is awesome. Leaves a very bright finish and is OK environmentally as well.

BMARSH posted 04-10-2003 02:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for BMARSH  Send Email to BMARSH     
WHERE TO GET WOODYWAX
tuna1 posted 04-10-2003 02:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for tuna1  Send Email to tuna1     
Woody Wax can be found at:West Marine,BoatUS,and Boater World and other marine supply stores.It can be order online from their web site at: http://www.woody-wax.com
Make sure you get the large size,because once you start to use it-it seam to be able to be used all over on a boat.
Barry posted 04-10-2003 10:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for Barry  Send Email to Barry     
The best price I found for Woody Wax was at www.boatfix.com .
Barry posted 04-10-2003 10:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for Barry  Send Email to Barry     
By the way, I bought some Starbrite Non-Skid Deck Cleaner with Teflon. The bottle says it "lifts dirt from non-skid deck surfaces" , "leaves a non-slippery protective Teflon coating", "safe and easy to use", "works like magic", "no hard rubbing", special chelating action dissolves deep down dirt", and "leaves a protective coating to resist staining and weathering". Unfortunately I haven't tried it yet so I can't say how well it works.

In the past I have used a nylon bristle brush with Meguiar's Color Restorer (or something similar), wiped it off, and then applied Woody Wax.

Chesapeake posted 04-15-2003 05:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chesapeake  Send Email to Chesapeake     
Someone previously mentioned to me they had great success with a pressure washer to clean non-skid where scrubbing and cleaners had no effect. I cannot claim to have tried it, but am greatly interested in the opinions of anyone that has tried pressure washer.

Any reason not to give it a shot?

whalernut posted 04-15-2003 09:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
My non-skid is in great shape, but is dirty and won`t come out with soap and water and a pressure washer, so I am thinking of Penatrol or what Barry suggested, the Starbrite Non-Skid cleaner with Teflon. Hmmmmmmmmm which one? Thanks-Jack.

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