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whalernut posted 04-10-2003 07:47 PM ET (US)
I am looking for a place to buy Sierra replacement parts or the like for good prices. OMC wants $127.99 for a New Power Pack for my 1975 85h.p. Johnson outboard, yea I bought one and had to use it also, these engines are known for blowing a power pack at any time :( So basically I am asking the best replacement parts and places to buy them other than OMC parts? I would think Sierra and the like would be cheaper, but I don`t know where to buy them??? I am in Pittsburgh,PA. but I would order over the phone from a respectable place :) Thanks-Jack.
Dick posted 04-10-2003 08:59 PM ET (US)
Try one of your local NAPA stores, a lot of them sell Sierra parts.
Try a Merc dealer that can't get OMC parts he will probably have Sierra available.
Dick
whalernut posted 04-10-2003 09:07 PM ET (US)
Thanks Dick!! Anyone else? Is Sierra the only way to fly other than OEM? Thanks-Jack.
Baseline posted 04-11-2003 08:41 AM ET (US)
I buy a lot of parts from Boatfix.com. They are a high volume warehouse in NJ. Once you see their prices, you will find little need for a local marinia. Many of the parts are 1/2 that of a dealer or marinina.
They have your power pack Sierra 18-5753 for $75.47. Boatfix has a 700 page + catalog, which I highly recommend, the prices in the catalog are just for reference. When you order online the prices are much less. Online you will find an order section and a reference section of the website. The prices in the reference section are the same as the catalog, the prices on the order section are the ones that matter. It's a little bit of a pain, but well worth it compared to dealer prices.
Main page
http://www.boatfix.com
Searched under 10000 engine parts by make.
http://www.boatfix.com/engsections/johnevelec.pdf#zoom=125
Sierra is a major name in the OEM and after market parts area, I have never had an issue using any of their parts. Below is more information about the Sierra corporation.
About Sierra:
In 1966 Sierra International became a part Echlin Inc., which later became part of DANA Engine Controls. Sierra's primary responsibility was to represent Echlin, a leading OEM parts supplier, in the marine industry. Three National Marine Manufacturer's Association "Manufacturer of the Year" awards testified to the success of this endeavor. In 1999 the Colfax Corporation, headquartered in Richmond, Virginia, acquired Sierra and Sierra became a part of Colfax's Morse Controls business. Sierra is located in a 174,000 square foot manufacturing and distribution center in Litchfield, Illinois with additional operations in Clearwater, Florida. Morse Controls is a global manufacturer of steering, throttle, transmission and implement control systems for the marine, agricultural, construction, aviation and heavy automotive industries with major manufacturing sites in the U.S., Europe, Japan and China and worldwide sales and distribution operations.
ShrimpBurrito posted 04-12-2003 02:29 AM ET (US)
The genuine OMC solenoid for my Johnson is ~$75. A Sierra solenoid through Boatfix is $20 delivered. It appears to be 100% identical.
whalernut posted 04-15-2003 09:26 PM ET (US)
Thanks guys, I just ordered a Power Pack and Rectifier from my local Auto Parts dealer who also orders Sierra marine parts. Unfortunately it was before I read about Boatfix. I paid $94.99 for the PP and $32.99 for the Rectifier, oh well next time I will order from Boatfix. Is there shipping expensive? Thanks-Jack.
Baseline posted 04-16-2003 11:08 AM ET (US)
Whalernut,
This is my loooong answer to your simple question…. Expensive and reasonable is a state of mind….
I think that Boatfix’s shipping is costs are reasonable. They do not charge a handling fee, just the actual shipping cost. To give you an idea of cost; I just purchased a mess of parts for my Johnson 88hp, including full a water pump kit, a complete thermostat kit, complete power head gasket kit, 2 carburetor kits, a fuel pump kit, 6 dash switches, 6 dash fuse holders, 2 polarized electrical plugs, a battery box strap, 4 rolls of waterline tape. The parts were $221.00 and shipping was about $18.00; total $239.00.+ or – a penny or two. In this case shipping is about 8% of the total bill, but try to get all the parts I ordered for $221 from BoatUS or West Marine or a local marina. Like all mail order / online stores it pays to combine orders for planned repairs, when possible.
For small purchases what is reasonable? Is it worth paying as much for shipping as the parts cost???? In many cases I would say absolutely! Last fall I needed a fuel line primer bulb, I called all over town trying to find one. Know one had one, but they all told me they could order one and have it in 3 to 4 days. They all wanted $8.00 to $12.00 for one primer bulb. I went on line to Boatfix and ordered 2 Tempo high volume primer bulbs, $4.00 a piece, with shipping it was $10.25, and had them in hand 3 days later. In this case the shipping cost was about 60% of the cost of 1 primer bulbs. I would much rather pay $2.50 shipping for a $4.00 part than to waste the better part of a Saturday calling stores that will not have the part to begin with. That is also assuming that the store is open on a Saturday, Sunday or when you get off work.
Getting off the subject, At this point in my life, I have no use for middlemen that add no real value to a purchase. It’s a waste of my time to look everywhere for a simple part that has to be ordered anyway. I also have an issue with paying a premium for the pleasure of dealing with the guy at the parts counter. Boatfix is now my primary supplier for almost everything related to boating, no sales people, no additional 100% to 200% markups, no sales tax, no second hand smoke….
The other source you need to know about is Doug Russell Marine out of Worcester Mass. They are not a deep discounter, like Boatfix, but they have over 300,000 engine parts on-line from Mecury/Mercruiser, Volvo Penta, OMC and more. There prices are about 10 to 20% lower than dealers prices. They have everything from an entire motor, to the smallest screw or carburetor jet, if you have the part number. They carry only OE parts which are always more costly. They also have a $30.00 minimum purchase, which doesn’t tend to be a problem when you are ordering OE parts.
I use Boatfix for my Macro boating needs and Doug Russell for the Micro parts that only a dealer will have access to.

http://www.dougrussell.com/
whalernut posted 04-16-2003 07:09 PM ET (US)
Thank you Baseline, very helpfull and usefull information you provided, I will put it to very good use next time I go ordering parts. Thanks-Jack.

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Author	Topic: Sierra Replacement Parts or ???????
whalernut	posted 04-10-2003 07:47 PM ET (US) I am looking for a place to buy Sierra replacement parts or the like for good prices. OMC wants $127.99 for a New Power Pack for my 1975 85h.p. Johnson outboard, yea I bought one and had to use it also, these engines are known for blowing a power pack at any time :( So basically I am asking the best replacement parts and places to buy them other than OMC parts? I would think Sierra and the like would be cheaper, but I don`t know where to buy them??? I am in Pittsburgh,PA. but I would order over the phone from a respectable place :) Thanks-Jack.
Dick	posted 04-10-2003 08:59 PM ET (US) Try one of your local NAPA stores, a lot of them sell Sierra parts. Try a Merc dealer that can't get OMC parts he will probably have Sierra available. Dick
whalernut	posted 04-10-2003 09:07 PM ET (US) Thanks Dick!! Anyone else? Is Sierra the only way to fly other than OEM? Thanks-Jack.
Baseline	posted 04-11-2003 08:41 AM ET (US) I buy a lot of parts from Boatfix.com. They are a high volume warehouse in NJ. Once you see their prices, you will find little need for a local marinia. Many of the parts are 1/2 that of a dealer or marinina. They have your power pack Sierra 18-5753 for $75.47. Boatfix has a 700 page + catalog, which I highly recommend, the prices in the catalog are just for reference. When you order online the prices are much less. Online you will find an order section and a reference section of the website. The prices in the reference section are the same as the catalog, the prices on the order section are the ones that matter. It's a little bit of a pain, but well worth it compared to dealer prices. Main page http://www.boatfix.com Searched under 10000 engine parts by make. http://www.boatfix.com/engsections/johnevelec.pdf#zoom=125 Sierra is a major name in the OEM and after market parts area, I have never had an issue using any of their parts. Below is more information about the Sierra corporation. About Sierra: In 1966 Sierra International became a part Echlin Inc., which later became part of DANA Engine Controls. Sierra's primary responsibility was to represent Echlin, a leading OEM parts supplier, in the marine industry. Three National Marine Manufacturer's Association "Manufacturer of the Year" awards testified to the success of this endeavor. In 1999 the Colfax Corporation, headquartered in Richmond, Virginia, acquired Sierra and Sierra became a part of Colfax's Morse Controls business. Sierra is located in a 174,000 square foot manufacturing and distribution center in Litchfield, Illinois with additional operations in Clearwater, Florida. Morse Controls is a global manufacturer of steering, throttle, transmission and implement control systems for the marine, agricultural, construction, aviation and heavy automotive industries with major manufacturing sites in the U.S., Europe, Japan and China and worldwide sales and distribution operations.
ShrimpBurrito	posted 04-12-2003 02:29 AM ET (US) The genuine OMC solenoid for my Johnson is ~$75. A Sierra solenoid through Boatfix is $20 delivered. It appears to be 100% identical.
whalernut	posted 04-15-2003 09:26 PM ET (US) Thanks guys, I just ordered a Power Pack and Rectifier from my local Auto Parts dealer who also orders Sierra marine parts. Unfortunately it was before I read about Boatfix. I paid $94.99 for the PP and $32.99 for the Rectifier, oh well next time I will order from Boatfix. Is there shipping expensive? Thanks-Jack.
Baseline	posted 04-16-2003 11:08 AM ET (US) Whalernut, This is my loooong answer to your simple question…. Expensive and reasonable is a state of mind…. I think that Boatfix’s shipping is costs are reasonable. They do not charge a handling fee, just the actual shipping cost. To give you an idea of cost; I just purchased a mess of parts for my Johnson 88hp, including full a water pump kit, a complete thermostat kit, complete power head gasket kit, 2 carburetor kits, a fuel pump kit, 6 dash switches, 6 dash fuse holders, 2 polarized electrical plugs, a battery box strap, 4 rolls of waterline tape. The parts were $221.00 and shipping was about $18.00; total $239.00.+ or – a penny or two. In this case shipping is about 8% of the total bill, but try to get all the parts I ordered for $221 from BoatUS or West Marine or a local marina. Like all mail order / online stores it pays to combine orders for planned repairs, when possible. For small purchases what is reasonable? Is it worth paying as much for shipping as the parts cost???? In many cases I would say absolutely! Last fall I needed a fuel line primer bulb, I called all over town trying to find one. Know one had one, but they all told me they could order one and have it in 3 to 4 days. They all wanted $8.00 to $12.00 for one primer bulb. I went on line to Boatfix and ordered 2 Tempo high volume primer bulbs, $4.00 a piece, with shipping it was $10.25, and had them in hand 3 days later. In this case the shipping cost was about 60% of the cost of 1 primer bulbs. I would much rather pay $2.50 shipping for a $4.00 part than to waste the better part of a Saturday calling stores that will not have the part to begin with. That is also assuming that the store is open on a Saturday, Sunday or when you get off work. Getting off the subject, At this point in my life, I have no use for middlemen that add no real value to a purchase. It’s a waste of my time to look everywhere for a simple part that has to be ordered anyway. I also have an issue with paying a premium for the pleasure of dealing with the guy at the parts counter. Boatfix is now my primary supplier for almost everything related to boating, no sales people, no additional 100% to 200% markups, no sales tax, no second hand smoke…. The other source you need to know about is Doug Russell Marine out of Worcester Mass. They are not a deep discounter, like Boatfix, but they have over 300,000 engine parts on-line from Mecury/Mercruiser, Volvo Penta, OMC and more. There prices are about 10 to 20% lower than dealers prices. They have everything from an entire motor, to the smallest screw or carburetor jet, if you have the part number. They carry only OE parts which are always more costly. They also have a $30.00 minimum purchase, which doesn’t tend to be a problem when you are ordering OE parts. I use Boatfix for my Macro boating needs and Doug Russell for the Micro parts that only a dealer will have access to. http://www.dougrussell.com/
whalernut	posted 04-16-2003 07:09 PM ET (US) Thank you Baseline, very helpfull and usefull information you provided, I will put it to very good use next time I go ordering parts. Thanks-Jack.