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Bluedog posted 04-24-2003 10:57 PM ET (US)   Profile for Bluedog   Send Email to Bluedog  
I want to replace the cracking caulking on a 1990 18'Outrage. Is this stuff still available in BW factory colors? Any tips?
peetmin posted 04-24-2003 11:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for peetmin  Send Email to peetmin     
I used a product By Piedmont plastics. Its called "Piedmont PMG". They call it a marine/archetectural silicone sealant and adhesive. It comes in an almond color which works with the desert tan. The good thing about this stuff is it stays soft like a rubber ban after it cures so it never cracks or splits. It washes well also.pb
kingfish posted 04-25-2003 08:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Here's the stuff that Whaler used, and is really what you want-

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000275.html

peetmin posted 04-25-2003 10:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for peetmin  Send Email to peetmin     
Yea, Kingfish is probably right, I don't think there have been any significant advances in these types of chemicals in the past twenty years.You might as well reinstall the same product that failed.

kingfish posted 04-25-2003 11:19 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Well, I'm a little startled by the apparent sarcastic nature of your post, peetmin (or did I read something into it that was not intended?). Maybe everybody else out there has already used the PMG, found the Starbrite OEM factory color-matched silicone lacking in comparison, and I'm among the last to find out about it. Could happen...

Bluedog asked about replacing his deck caulking and if it is still available in factory colors; the answer is yes, and I supplied him with the a source for the OEM product and some history of the discussion regarding it here on the forum. If you believe you have a product that is superior, we'd all be interested in hearing a lot more about it.

But on the other hand if that was just a sarcastic shot, I don't appreciate it and would suggest you go somewhere else with it.

peetmin posted 04-25-2003 02:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for peetmin  Send Email to peetmin     
Where's the love Kingfish? Are your feelings hurt? Should I Go somewhere else? Man thats alot to digest...I'll have to think about all this...Your right, I'll straighten up. Your suggestion was the right chioce. It was stupid of me to share what I had used with the likes of KINGFISH lurking!!!
kingfish posted 04-25-2003 04:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Whatever...

peetmin posted 04-25-2003 05:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for peetmin  Send Email to peetmin     
To add and conclude, I suppose I find it interesting that you could determine that one product could be superior to another when you admit having no knowlege of one of the products being compared.
This is a forum where people discuss products and methods they have used to help others avoid mistakes. You seemed to discount my reply to Bluedog's question when you concluded "this is really what you want" and then in your following post admit you are not famillar with the product I spoke of.
I grow tired and impatient with those that shoot from the hip comming to conclusions without knowing what they speak of.
homey posted 04-25-2003 06:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for homey  Send Email to homey     
Peetmin and Kingfish,

Just when I think this place is getting alittle dull, you guys spice it up abit...I enjoy the up front in your keyboard approach...Makes for interesting reading, Thanks.
Bluedog, I used a almond color(looks great with the desert tan and teak) silicone caulk from Home depot. Its worked well and is less expensive than the Whaler stuff. Just make sure you apply it properly. Good luck!

BW23 posted 04-25-2003 09:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for BW23  Send Email to BW23     
HD silicone on a Whaler ?? Don't you think the marine specific products will hold up better? I do and my time is worth more than the price difference !!
kingfish posted 04-25-2003 11:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Peetmin-

I must be getting on board late here or something, but, and not intending to be repetitive, Bluedog asked a question specifically about the continued availability of an OEM product, and I answered it. Read his post again.

You apparently took offense at my use of the qualifier, "really", and I'm sorry that you did. My use of that word was not meant to demean you or your experience with a product that might be considered as an alternative; in fact it was not about you at all. It was an attempt that I now see could have been more carefully crafted (so that it wouldn't be misunderstood), to communicate with Bluedog that the Starbrite product was the OEM caulking that Bluedog had asked about, and that it *really* worked.

As far as superiority of products is concerned, I don't know which one is superior and neither do you. In fact I doubt that we'd agree on the standards of superiority and I really don't care that much at the moment anyway. I do know which product answered the question.

This forum among other things *is* about comparison of products and methods, both tried and new on the horizon, and if you have found something new that really is a blockbuster, we are all interested in hearing about it. Bring it on. Maybe it will be the next "right stuff", and that is the magic of this forum.

But if I (or anybody else) offend(s) you, how about just coming right out with what it is right off the bat, rather than getting snotty and waiting for us to excavate to the problem? I grow tired and impatient with both the things you reference and some others I have mentioned here as well.

So are we over this thing, or do we have to take it somewhere else so this forum can remain topical? My e-mail address is in my profile - I am more than a little embarassed about where this has gone when all Bluedog wanted was a simple answer.

peetmin posted 04-26-2003 12:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for peetmin  Send Email to peetmin     
I agree with all the points you have made. And if I were in Bluedogs position I would call up twin rivers marine and order the product you suggested based on the information he has recieved since posting his question. But I had recently performed the task he asked about and gave him input in regard to the results I got. I would have anwsered even if the results were crap and steered him away from the product. I am not to wise to post a question either, the last time I did it went unanwsered for days until I claimed to have stumped the band and only then did I recieve a reply (Textured deck maintence). Had I come to this thread after your reply I probably would not have replied as he would have had a very accurate anwser. As for takeing this off site well why don't you drag that 22' out west here and I'll show you around the Islands here and we can talk a little shop. Respectfully, Peetmin
peetmin posted 04-26-2003 12:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for peetmin  Send Email to peetmin     
I'm not really embarrased as I Know little shame. pb
kingfish posted 04-26-2003 08:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Peetmin-

As JB would say, "Peace" -

And speaking of Whalers, thank you for an intriguing invitation. A trailering trip out to your neck of the woods is something I would truly enjoy; there's quite a gang of you guys out there that I would love to meet and no apparent end to the boating and fishing possibilities. My friend LHG has pulled his boat out that way a couple of times and I had to turn down his invitation to come along the last time due to a busy schedule. I hope to be able to do it before too long.

kf

homey posted 04-26-2003 10:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for homey  Send Email to homey     
BW23,
You should check out your local home Depot, the selection of caulking materials is large...The "marine specific products" you mention are the same products sitting on the shelves at Home Depot.(its in the fine print on the back of the tube) Saying something is marine grade is just a marketing tool to get you to buy it...The almond color is really an improvement in my opinion because it compliments the brightwork...Disclaimer: I'm not a Home Depot employee, just a educated consumer. This post isn't intended to be offensive just abit imformative.

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