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JohnNorthEast posted 06-09-2003 10:12 PM ET (US)   Profile for JohnNorthEast   Send Email to JohnNorthEast  
Iíve done a fair amount of work on my 1985 18 foot outrage.I have replaced the gas tank, completely rewired, removed then replaced the plywood under the deck, and re fiber glassed areas worn in the tunnel . I couldnít not have proceed with any of this without the excellent advice from this board. A few have asked for photos of the work and I have sent them off. Well now Iím at a different level and seeking more advice.

My concerns now are primarily cosmetic. Unfortunately when I replaced the plywood under the deck and covered it with sheets of fiberglass- I didnít cover the numerous screw holes properly. While it did not appear so at the time, fiberglass and epoxy leaked through many of the holes and bonded to the deck gelcoat. Should I approach this job again, instead of taping the holes, I would silicone each and every pore to prevent seepage!

Well, the problem is that I now have offensive fiberglass and epoxy stains on areas of my refinished deck.

The way I see it, I have three choices.

1. I could ignore the cosmetic flaws, these somewhat small but painful reminders of my imperfection, and simply enjoy the boat. She runs like a charm and the stains do not impede her performance. However, I have trouble letting go.

2. I can grind the fiberglass off and paint or gel coat over the areas. Some areas are no skid others are not.

3. I can paint over the entire deck floor with a skid resistant paint: Is there such a product?

My boat, now resting comfortably on her mooring, will appreciate the excellent advice or fellow Whailarians.

alkar posted 06-09-2003 10:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for alkar  Send Email to alkar     
I vote for choice number 1 - at least until it drives you nuts. In my case I got to that juncture quickly, but I still think it would have been more "rational" to just leave my boat alone after she was repaired and mechanically sound. I just couldn't do it.

There are non-skid paint preparations but, depending on the extent of the damage, I would urge you to consider returning the boat to it's original condition. You're much less likely to regret that - and it will protect resale value. (Look at Gibco's non-skid patterns to see if they have a match for you.)

If you decide to do something unique and durable, I would encourage you to consider Line-x and Awlgrip. That's what I did and I think it has turned out pretty well (for a third choice). (photos are under the nearby thread entitled Dolphinite, Awlgrip,...)

David Jenkins posted 06-09-2003 10:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Jenkins  Send Email to David Jenkins     
If it were me I would try to ignore it. Or at least forget about it until boating season is over. If you can work on it in a garage over the winter months, that is a different story....
Cpt Quint posted 06-10-2003 09:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for Cpt Quint  Send Email to Cpt Quint     
There is a skid resistant surface called ultra tuff. they just customized my bw classic blue. Its cheap, water soluable, rubber like. will reduce the heat surface 20 degrees and cover all cracks for good. can be sprayed or rolled painted. its like truck bed liner material and guarenteed 10 years
Gep posted 06-10-2003 12:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for Gep  Send Email to Gep     
I did almost the same retoration as you on my 1981 Outrage 18'.
I thought I had done a good job and taken care of all the little holes and imperfections. But I didn't. I figured after all the work I went through this last winter it should have turned out better or I should have done things differently.
I was at the same crossroads as you and opted to not worry about the small imperfections and enjoy the boat for our all too short summer.
I figure there is time enough to get to the small stuff next winter and it will be a drop in the bucket compared to what I put myself through this last winter.
P.S. I would like to see some pictures if your still sending them out.

JohnNorthEast posted 06-10-2003 05:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for JohnNorthEast  Send Email to JohnNorthEast     
Thanks for the advice, my summary is to ignore over the summer then consider redoing the deck this fall. Cpt Quint, do you have photos of the deck that has been ultra tuffed? Alkar,I will say the deck coverage you completed looks really nice. I will try to ignore over the summer. I do not think I can ignore it too long, my first approach may be to grind the small blemishes down to gelcoat and simply paint over them with a desert tan colored mix... However, I have to resist this urge to cover the entire deck with algrip or ultra tuff. Anyway thanks for the ideas I will keep the board posted on changes. Gep, some photos are on the way. Any other photos of decks painted etc., please send my way


alkar posted 06-10-2003 06:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for alkar  Send Email to alkar     
John, the light gray areas on my boat are Awlgrip (paint). It's glossy, hard and very tough. The dark gray panels in the deck and gunwales are the Line-X (which is the stuff like Rhino-liner).

Awlgrip comes is a wide variety of colors and can be prepared in a non-skid mix (which involves an additive).

Painting your whole boat with Awlgrip would be fine, although I think gelcoat is preferable. You definitely would NOT want to do your whole boat in Line-X.

arctic cruiser posted 06-11-2003 12:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for arctic cruiser  Send Email to arctic cruiser     
I am currently fixing up the hull and keel for a 1970's 21ft outrage. Planning to use the west coast epoxy system to patch drill holes(drained water out of hull) and other small abrasions on the hull and keel. This forum has been invaluable for advice, but if any of you have any pictures or advice of similiar projects that would be much appreciated.....

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