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Destroyer steering wheel
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posted 06-19-2003 10:06 AM ET (US)
Hello. What size diameter stainless steering
wheel should I install on my Nauset? I like
their appearance. Thx.
posted 06-19-2003 12:55 PM ET (US)
They are 15" and I have one for sale look in the marketplace under "1989 Montauk parts for sale."
posted 06-19-2003 01:19 PM ET (US)
Tried finding "1989 Montauk Parts For Sale" in the Marketplace.....No luck !?. Where is it ?
posted 06-19-2003 01:35 PM ET (US)
Sorry did not post it yet being I have a deal pending on the hull and did not want to mislead people. The wheel is $35 + shipping(OEM Whaler)Not sure about $5 cap though, will look.
posted 06-19-2003 03:34 PM ET (US)
The original factory supplied 6-spoke SS wheels used on Montauk/Outrage consoles, at least 1986-1989, were 16" dia, by Grant. I understand these are no longer available new.
Whaler's new supplier, Schmitt, only makes them, 5 or 6 spoke according to JimH, in 15" diameter.
posted 06-19-2003 04:13 PM ET (US)
This one is OEM from a 1989, I will look but I think it has 6 spokes.
posted 06-19-2003 11:05 PM ET (US)
I think that Whaler was using Atwood 15" "destroyer wheels" @ 1990. They did have a backup vendor which I don't recall, perhaps it was Grant.
posted 06-19-2003 11:41 PM ET (US)
I recently tried to replace my 1987 6-spoke destroyer style steering wheel. It was made by GRANT, and was 16-inch diameter and had a 25-degree set back to the spokes. This was used on a 20-foot hull.
After much email and conversation with GRANT and a product manager there, I came to the conclusion that it would not be the easiest thing to buy a GRANT replacement wheel.
GRANT is located in Los Angeles and their product line seem highly focused on automotive steering wheels. Even GRANT could not tell me where to buy a marine wheel at retail, and they referred me a a distributor with whom I might be able to place an order.
GRANT also doubted that the distributor would have the 6-spoke wheel in stock.
As a result of all this I looked for an alternative. I contacted the product manager at SCHMITT in Pennsylvania. Although seldom shown in marine catalogues, they make a 6-spoke destroyer style wheel. It is a 15-1/2-inch diameter, just slightly smaller than the original GRANT, and the angle of the spokes is 22-degrees, which is just a few degrees different than the GRANT.
The construction of the SCHMITT wheel is a great improvement over the GRANT c.1987 model. In the GRANT, an aluminum hub is drilled with threaded holes. The stainless steel spokes are threaded into these holes. The outer rim is applied and welded to the spokes. After many years of use the stainless material wears the aluminum hub, and the wheel develops some sloppiness to its action.
The SCHMITT wheel is constructed with a steel hub (perhaps also stainless) and the entire wheel is welded together.
Of the most importance, the 6-spoke SCHMITT wheel is carried by their retail dealers, and foremost among these is an online catalogue called GO2MARINE.COM.
I was able to order the wheel at about $57 retail, plus $10 shipping and handling. The delivered cost was about $67 and the wheel was in-stock and arrived a few days after placing the order online.
The GO2MARINE part number is 86942.
The SCHMITT part number is 152-16-2-1.
In conversation with the product line manager from SCHMITT I asked why most catalogue listings did not include the 6-spoke wheel. His opinion was that the 6-spoke wheel cost a few dollars more than the 5-spoke, and most people just carried the cheaper model.
I can recommend the SCHMITT wheel for people who want a 6-spoke wheel to maintain the original look of their Boston Whaler boat.
I also got excellent service from GO2MARINE and their online ordering system. I never spoke to a human there, just entered the information on line and received a steering wheel in a few days.
If it is any indication of where the wheel was made, the box containing the wheel was filled with some Philadelphia area newspapers to act as a cushion.
posted 06-19-2003 11:47 PM ET (US)
I think Whaler is using a 5-spoke destroyer wheel on many of their boats now. They also use a custom made SCHMITT wheel, a racy 3-spoke, on the big OUTRAGEs.
The center cover is included in the price I mentioned for the SCHMITT wheel. With some vendors the plastic center cover is not included and is a $5 accessory.
posted 08-03-2003 09:52 PM ET (US)
I happened to remove my new Schmitt 6-spoke steering wheel to service the hydraulic helm pump. In the process I noticed a sticker attached that said "Made in China".
I guess my steering wheel went from China (manufacturer), to Pennsylvania (Schmitt), to Oregon (mail order dealer), to Michigan. That is a lot of shipping!
posted 08-04-2003 04:23 PM ET (US)
I received my 15" 3 spoke w/knob directly from GG Schmitt.(long story)I live in Lancaster PA.
I'm pretty sure those wheels are mfg. in Lancaster PA. or Sarasota Fla.
I could not be happier with their products.
posted 08-05-2003 10:54 AM ET (US)
They are right down the road in Bradenton. They show up at Surplus now and then but.....boater's world now carries them for like $59. I looked at one that has 3 wide spokes and it also had the "made in China" sticker so I bailed on purchase.
posted 08-05-2003 07:05 PM ET (US)
There is no reason these Steering Wheels should be made in China. I thought the US produced alot of Stainless Steel these days? Is there a wheel out there that is made in the USA for our Whalers? I would rather buy one made in the US. Thanks-Jack.
posted 08-05-2003 09:02 PM ET (US)
Jack -- feel free to do some research and post the results. If you can find a 6-spoke, 15.5 - 16 inch diameter wheel, 22-25 degree pitch, that you can easily buy at retail or online and is MADE IN THE USA, I will be glad to include this information.
I spent a lot of time tracking down the Schmitt 6-spoke. I gave up on Grant after the product manager more or less told me you can't get them anymore.
If you avoid all products made overseas, you will soon be living like a Shaker.
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