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tlynch posted 06-29-2003 01:28 PM ET (US)   Profile for tlynch   Send Email to tlynch  
Hello,

The ignition switch on my Whaler rotates as I turn the key. Turning the key now takes two hands - one to hold the switch and the other to turn the key. There is a plastic nut that can be tightened on the outside of the center console, but this does not get tight enough to keep the entire switch from rotating? How is this supposed to be installed? Did something break free on the inside?

Thanks,
Todd

1985 Outrage 18, 1985 Johnson 150

tomroe posted 06-30-2003 06:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for tomroe  Send Email to tomroe     
If the entire switch rotates, then you are either not getting the nut tight enough or it is stripped and you will never get it tight enough. Try putting some silicone or other none permanent adhesive on the back where the switch meets the console.
tlynch posted 06-30-2003 12:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for tlynch  Send Email to tlynch     
I tighten the nut and right when it is about to get tight, the threads give out and it pops loose again.

I will try securing the back in place with an adhesive.

Thanks,
Todd Lynch

Jarhead posted 06-30-2003 01:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jarhead  Send Email to Jarhead     
You could shim the switch a little behind the console. This would allow you to use good threads before reaching the stripped.
Stellario posted 07-01-2003 05:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Stellario  Send Email to Stellario     
I had this happen to me too, and tightening did not help.

As I recall the ignition key cylinder has a flat side that cuts across the threads, and I believe it faces up (BTW mine is OMC). The flat surface on the ignition cylinder "keys" into the plastic trim/disk that is screwed into the console. In my case it was this trim/disk that was worn, the opening was mostly rounded out, instead of having a flat spot to prevent the ignition cylinder from spinning (the previous owner had the ignition cylinder nut too loose)

What I did was to cut a piece (less than half) off of a small stainless steel washer, I placed this piece of washer between the flat side of the cylinder and trim/disk, to make up for the wear, and tightened it up. Works perfectly for over a year now. I may have re-flattened out that part of the trim/disk a bit with a file too, I just canít remember for sure.

I suppose you could replace the parts, but I suspect if you examine it close enough, youíll see exactly what the issue is, and figure out what to do. But tightening alone is not the answer.

Landlocked posted 07-01-2003 05:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for Landlocked  Send Email to Landlocked     
Try placing large fender washers on the back side before inserting the switch through the console to shim it as suggested by Jarhead. Ought to work fine.

Ll.

Stellario posted 07-01-2003 10:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Stellario  Send Email to Stellario     
If you have stripped threads, shiming it out is good advice, it'll get you a good purchase on threads that aren't worn. But if you have the same problem I did, it'll work that way (tightening it up alone) for a while, but it wasn't the end of the story for me.

Good luck, let us know how you made out.

Jarhead posted 07-02-2003 08:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jarhead  Send Email to Jarhead     
One thing I failed to mention...
After you've shimmed I suggest using BLUE [not red] Loc-Tite on the threads. Just follow the directions and make sure the threads are clean.

If you use Loc-Tite and don't over tighten you'll be Okay..

tomroe posted 07-02-2003 09:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for tomroe  Send Email to tomroe     
With all due respect to the above post, loc-tite may not work with and may actually attack some plastics. It's an anaerobic which needs to be in contact with metal and have a lack of oxygen to work. I would check with loc-tite first.
Jarhead posted 07-02-2003 11:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jarhead  Send Email to Jarhead     
tomroe...

You bring up an interesting point that I never considerted....

I've used Loc-tite a time or two on plastic with good results but went to the Loc-tite site and found that indeed it does have an undesirable affect on some thermoplastics but not on theroset plastic....

At any rate I will have to agree that it probably wouldn't be a good idea to use the product in this situation.....

Good heads up....

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