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Kolbert posted 07-14-2003 09:52 AM ET (US)
Any advice on where to get the bow rail holders/guides for a 71' Nauset? Last weekend, one of the pieces on the left side snapped in half. This piece is not the bottom mount where the rail is screwed in to, but the guide immediately above it. I had been contemplating replacing these before as most of them have pitted or flaking chrome. Can these parts be welded? They appear to be bronze or brass under the chrome.
Related to this, how are these typically attached to the hull? The rear most pieces on both sides were screwed in (at least on my boat) bit the broken side piece had long bolts. Should they all be bolted?

Tom W Clark posted 07-14-2003 11:25 AM ET (US)
Austin,
The parts in question are called stanchion supports. They are (on Whalers of your vintage) made of chrome plated bronze. You can buy new replacements from any Whaler dealer or directly from CMI Marine in Hingham, MA (781-740-1260). I believe these will be polished stainless steel and ever so slightly different in the shape of their casting.
Used stanchion supports are often available at used marine equipment shops or on Ebay. But understand that these are not generic off-the-shelf parts, but rather were (are) custom made for Whaler. There are also several different sizes/shapes so be sure you know what you want before you go shopping.
Bronze fittings can always be replated but not welded back together.
I might have a used stanchion support if that would suffice for you. Send me an email if you’re interested and give me the particulars and a digital photo if possible.
Generally speaking, the bow rail on the 16' 7" hulls have the stanchion supports on the middle stanchion attached with machine screws threaded into a cast backing plate on the exterior of the hull. The stern most stanchion supports screw directly into plywood backing in the hull. You can always retrofit the exterior backing plate if the wood or screw hole is too damaged to accept a fastener.
Kolbert posted 07-17-2003 07:57 AM ET (US)
Tom,
Thanks for the feedback and information. I drive by Hingham on my way to Cape Cod and will have to drop in with the current piece. It's always good to know the exact part name when trying to describe what I need.
Hope your boating season is going well!
Austin
gansett posted 07-21-2003 09:30 PM ET (US)
Austin, the old standoffs can be rechromed to take care of that flaking, but cost to rechrome is about the same as cost for a new one, $22 or so. As Tom mentioned, the new ones are stainless and of slightly different shape... CMI sells the short for $18 and the long for $24. They really know their stuff and are great to deal with. If you want boat "original" or "vintage" you might want to rechrome the old ones.
I have a few old original long standoffs (needing replating) and several new stainless long standoffs and new short standoffs (never used) if you need something... I'd be happy to dig them out sell the old ones for $10 each or the new ones for $15 each (plus shipping). I can send pics if your interested.
Re: bolts, there is a thru hull fitting often used to thru-bolt the bow rail, CMI sells replacements for $19 each side. You can see the plates on the outside of the hull on some of the Cetacea pics of old blue 16's.
Kolbert posted 07-22-2003 01:21 PM ET (US)
Had a friend of freind who is a welder look at my stanchion pieces. He was able to weld them back together with a special process in a few minutes. So far so good.
Tom and Gansett, if it comes apart again, I will definitely get back to you about your extras.
Thanks,
Austin

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Author	Topic: Nauset Bow Rail Holders
Kolbert	posted 07-14-2003 09:52 AM ET (US) Any advice on where to get the bow rail holders/guides for a 71' Nauset? Last weekend, one of the pieces on the left side snapped in half. This piece is not the bottom mount where the rail is screwed in to, but the guide immediately above it. I had been contemplating replacing these before as most of them have pitted or flaking chrome. Can these parts be welded? They appear to be bronze or brass under the chrome. Related to this, how are these typically attached to the hull? The rear most pieces on both sides were screwed in (at least on my boat) bit the broken side piece had long bolts. Should they all be bolted?
Tom W Clark	posted 07-14-2003 11:25 AM ET (US) Austin, The parts in question are called stanchion supports. They are (on Whalers of your vintage) made of chrome plated bronze. You can buy new replacements from any Whaler dealer or directly from CMI Marine in Hingham, MA (781-740-1260). I believe these will be polished stainless steel and ever so slightly different in the shape of their casting. Used stanchion supports are often available at used marine equipment shops or on Ebay. But understand that these are not generic off-the-shelf parts, but rather were (are) custom made for Whaler. There are also several different sizes/shapes so be sure you know what you want before you go shopping. Bronze fittings can always be replated but not welded back together. I might have a used stanchion support if that would suffice for you. Send me an email if you’re interested and give me the particulars and a digital photo if possible. Generally speaking, the bow rail on the 16' 7" hulls have the stanchion supports on the middle stanchion attached with machine screws threaded into a cast backing plate on the exterior of the hull. The stern most stanchion supports screw directly into plywood backing in the hull. You can always retrofit the exterior backing plate if the wood or screw hole is too damaged to accept a fastener.
Kolbert	posted 07-17-2003 07:57 AM ET (US) Tom, Thanks for the feedback and information. I drive by Hingham on my way to Cape Cod and will have to drop in with the current piece. It's always good to know the exact part name when trying to describe what I need. Hope your boating season is going well! Austin
gansett	posted 07-21-2003 09:30 PM ET (US) Austin, the old standoffs can be rechromed to take care of that flaking, but cost to rechrome is about the same as cost for a new one, $22 or so. As Tom mentioned, the new ones are stainless and of slightly different shape... CMI sells the short for $18 and the long for $24. They really know their stuff and are great to deal with. If you want boat "original" or "vintage" you might want to rechrome the old ones. I have a few old original long standoffs (needing replating) and several new stainless long standoffs and new short standoffs (never used) if you need something... I'd be happy to dig them out sell the old ones for $10 each or the new ones for $15 each (plus shipping). I can send pics if your interested. Re: bolts, there is a thru hull fitting often used to thru-bolt the bow rail, CMI sells replacements for $19 each side. You can see the plates on the outside of the hull on some of the Cetacea pics of old blue 16's.
Kolbert	posted 07-22-2003 01:21 PM ET (US) Had a friend of freind who is a welder look at my stanchion pieces. He was able to weld them back together with a special process in a few minutes. So far so good. Tom and Gansett, if it comes apart again, I will definitely get back to you about your extras. Thanks, Austin