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cavcap posted 07-17-2003 01:42 PM ET (US)   Profile for cavcap   Send Email to cavcap  
I have an 86' 22 ooutrage, the ground on the port (left/red) nav light failed. There was not enough free wire under the original light to correct this. I would like to know if the wire was originally run under the rub rail and into the similar location on the starboard (right/ green) light. I'm currently using the hand rail as a ground, but I'm concerned about electrolysis affecting the hardware on the rail.

Jerry Townsend posted 07-17-2003 02:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
The ground on the port side and the starboard side are one and the same. You may have a fixture with one ground wire and the ground for each lamp socket interconnected - or you may have a separate ground wire to each socket. Simply make a good connection (properly cleaned and soldered) into the ground wire on the starboard side and connect to the port side ground. Should you have separate wires to each lamp socket, I would replace as much of the port side ground wire as possible.

I believe that the wire from the console was under the starboard rub rail. ----- Jerry/Idaho

jimh posted 07-17-2003 10:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
[Changed TOPIC; was "wiring"--jimh.]
Tom W Clark posted 07-17-2003 10:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
cavcap,

Yes, the wire to the port nav light runs under the rub rail insert from the starboard nav light. The insert is easy to remove and reinstall so you may as well (at the very least) run a new wire around the bow from the starboard nav light to the port nav light. Whaler simply used 18 ga. "zip cord" (lamp cord).

Given that your boat is 17 years old and the remaining wire may be suffering the same effects as the lead to the port nav light, you might want to consider replacing the whole run. An upgrade to some good Ancor brand marine grade wire may be in order.

I am a bit perplexed at your statement: "I'm currently using the hand rail as a ground..." Boats are not like cars; they do not use a metal chassis as the common ground. How would connecting the ground to a hand rail allow the light to work?

peetmin posted 07-18-2003 12:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for peetmin  Send Email to peetmin     
I agree, sounds like an interesting proceedure. I guess if the rail ran from bow to stern and he ran a bond to the negitive post of the battery it would work...
cavcap posted 07-18-2003 09:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for cavcap  Send Email to cavcap     
tom clark

I used the rail as a ground by tapping a fitting on the port and again on the starboard about where the starboard support was over the place where the side panels are removable. I didn't want to pull the rub rail and not find a wire under it. and couldn't track it from thestarboard side. I thought it may have run through the deck.

jimh posted 07-18-2003 05:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
The recommended practice of the American Boat and Yacht Council is that conductors used in "installations" be a minimum of 16-AWG.

See http://www.bluesea.com/abyc.htm

Circuits that supply voltage to navigation lights must not exceed a 3-percent voltage drop at the rated current.

acseatsri posted 07-18-2003 06:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for acseatsri  Send Email to acseatsri     
The wire is under the black rubrail insert- it just pulls out by hand. Probably less than an hour to replace the whole shebang.
Drisney posted 07-20-2003 11:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for Drisney  Send Email to Drisney     
Cavcap...I am not sure that my illustrious friends were clear; both wires run together up the same side ...then one continues around the bow...There is not one up each side. Dave

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