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83bws posted 07-23-2003 06:47 PM ET (US)
what is the best way to remove the rivets from my rub rail?

acseatsri posted 07-23-2003 08:03 PM ET (US)
Just drill off the heads with a 3/16 drill.
83bws posted 07-24-2003 12:35 AM ET (US)
what do i do after i drill the heads off. The problem is that some of them have been ripped out and are bent. and i cant pulle them out what do i do
Rob Cote posted 07-24-2003 06:30 AM ET (US)
83bws, I replaced the Rub Rail on my Montauk this winter. Using advice and instructions that I got by using the search feature on this fourm, the job was pretty straight forward.
After drilling off the rivet heads, just poke the reamining peice back into the gunnel.
I then filled the holes with West's epoxy, but others have used MarineTex.
Rob Cote posted 07-24-2003 06:31 AM ET (US)
make that,
...poke the "remaining" piece ....
Capt_Tidy posted 07-24-2003 05:12 PM ET (US)
Just finished installing a heavy duty black commercial monster rub rail on my 15 - very easy job (Kit # 500-05017 at around $158 plus shipping from Sue at Twin City Marine).
It took me about 25 minutes to install complete using self tapping screws... needed my wife for two holds - did it in full sun after the rail baked for a couple of hours...
The jobs looks very professional and clean - the boat looks better and actually looks bigger / meaner... hopefully will scare away some whimpy electric boats. The end caps look awesome... very very clean look.
The only negative - I switched out using the BW sealer (one week to cure) with 3M-5200 so I could wash the boat immediately. I actually sealed all old holes and sft spots (after grinding away some areas) with Marine Tex and then screwed into the old holes for the best hold - with Marine Tex the old holes are now the thickess part of the hull along the rail... I put extra effort into remming out the old holes to make lots of room for a good bond. Plus the heavy duty rail is slightly bigger than the original rail and it completely covers my sloppy fill job.
Thanks Big Shot - without your earlier post/ comment on installing an original style rail (5 hour installation with three guys) I likely would not have returned the original style rub rail and would be still working on the stupid thing... and likely divorced.
Whoever offered the advice to work over grass - thank you. The rail would be marked up working on a hard surface like my garage.
cheers
Ian
bluewater posted 07-24-2003 05:54 PM ET (US)
I visited the local BW dealer today and discovered that the only rub rail I could get is one with a gray receiver track and black insert. I am looking to match the receiver track that is my boat now, which is white with a black insert.
Does anyone know who manufactures the rub rails for whaler?
Where else can I get a rub rail to match my '78 Montauk (original rail, i think)?
Capt Tidy- what size screws did you use?
Thanks in advance.
bluewater
Capt_Tidy posted 07-25-2003 02:13 PM ET (US)
The screws came with the kit - approx 1.5 inches # 10's self taping - no pre drilling.
Call Sue at Twin City Marine.. her number is in the reference/rub rail page - evry nice to deal. The kit from her was almost $100 cheaper than here in CA.

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Author	Topic: rub rail rivets
83bws	posted 07-23-2003 06:47 PM ET (US) what is the best way to remove the rivets from my rub rail?
acseatsri	posted 07-23-2003 08:03 PM ET (US) Just drill off the heads with a 3/16 drill.
83bws	posted 07-24-2003 12:35 AM ET (US) what do i do after i drill the heads off. The problem is that some of them have been ripped out and are bent. and i cant pulle them out what do i do
Rob Cote	posted 07-24-2003 06:30 AM ET (US) 83bws, I replaced the Rub Rail on my Montauk this winter. Using advice and instructions that I got by using the search feature on this fourm, the job was pretty straight forward. After drilling off the rivet heads, just poke the reamining peice back into the gunnel. I then filled the holes with West's epoxy, but others have used MarineTex.
Rob Cote	posted 07-24-2003 06:31 AM ET (US) make that, ...poke the "remaining" piece ....
Capt_Tidy	posted 07-24-2003 05:12 PM ET (US) Just finished installing a heavy duty black commercial monster rub rail on my 15 - very easy job (Kit # 500-05017 at around $158 plus shipping from Sue at Twin City Marine). It took me about 25 minutes to install complete using self tapping screws... needed my wife for two holds - did it in full sun after the rail baked for a couple of hours... The jobs looks very professional and clean - the boat looks better and actually looks bigger / meaner... hopefully will scare away some whimpy electric boats. The end caps look awesome... very very clean look. The only negative - I switched out using the BW sealer (one week to cure) with 3M-5200 so I could wash the boat immediately. I actually sealed all old holes and sft spots (after grinding away some areas) with Marine Tex and then screwed into the old holes for the best hold - with Marine Tex the old holes are now the thickess part of the hull along the rail... I put extra effort into remming out the old holes to make lots of room for a good bond. Plus the heavy duty rail is slightly bigger than the original rail and it completely covers my sloppy fill job. Thanks Big Shot - without your earlier post/ comment on installing an original style rail (5 hour installation with three guys) I likely would not have returned the original style rub rail and would be still working on the stupid thing... and likely divorced. Whoever offered the advice to work over grass - thank you. The rail would be marked up working on a hard surface like my garage. cheers Ian
bluewater	posted 07-24-2003 05:54 PM ET (US) I visited the local BW dealer today and discovered that the only rub rail I could get is one with a gray receiver track and black insert. I am looking to match the receiver track that is my boat now, which is white with a black insert. Does anyone know who manufactures the rub rails for whaler? Where else can I get a rub rail to match my '78 Montauk (original rail, i think)? Capt Tidy- what size screws did you use? Thanks in advance. bluewater
Capt_Tidy	posted 07-25-2003 02:13 PM ET (US) The screws came with the kit - approx 1.5 inches # 10's self taping - no pre drilling. Call Sue at Twin City Marine.. her number is in the reference/rub rail page - evry nice to deal. The kit from her was almost $100 cheaper than here in CA.